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Vanity: CHAZ is not the first attempt at a Utopian City: Munster 1634: Dan Carlin Hardcore History
Dan Carlin Hardcore History ^ | June 13, 2020 | Me

Posted on 06/13/2020 5:01:38 AM PDT by C19fan

Murderous millennial preachers and prophets take over the German city of Munster after Martin Luther unleashes a Pandora’s Box of religious anarchy with the Protestant Reformation.

(Excerpt) Read more at dancarlin.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: 1534; 1634; anabaptists; chaz; communism; munster; munsterrebellion; overthrowofmnster; overthrowofmunster; theocracy; utopia; westphalia
Dan Carlin is the number 1 history podcaster on the internet. He did an episode looking at what happened in Munster in 1634 when Millenarian Anabaptists took over the city. I find it as a useful analogy to what is going on with CHAZ.
1 posted on 06/13/2020 5:01:38 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

“Hardcore History” is a fantastic history podcast, by the way. Dan’s podcasts are in-depth and he has an excellent presentation style.


2 posted on 06/13/2020 5:09:41 AM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: C19fan

Sounds interesting, but it says this show is “Duration:04:15:36 minutes“ and I have to pay $2.

Is that 4 days, 15 hours, 36 seconds? I’ve seen some long-winded videos on YouTube...


3 posted on 06/13/2020 5:10:18 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

No. I it is hours:minutes:seconds.


4 posted on 06/13/2020 5:11:12 AM PDT by C19fan
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Sorry, that’s what I meant.

Is he good enough to listen to for four hours? You say he has a good presentation style.


5 posted on 06/13/2020 5:15:43 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

He more recent podcasts are free although he asks for a $1 an episode donation. He is doing a series on the war in the Pacific starting with the Japanese attack on China. Listen to one of those and see if you like his style.


6 posted on 06/13/2020 5:17:47 AM PDT by C19fan
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Interesting. There’s also the Paris Commune...this seems to happen every so often, when law and order has broken down for some other reason.

In this case, it was the Protestant Reformation ; in the case of the Paris Commune, it was the Franco Prussian War. In our case, it was the three month (five month, in some places) shut down and the assumption of extra-legal dictatorial powers by state governors.


7 posted on 06/13/2020 5:26:07 AM PDT by livius
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Is he good enough to listen to for four hours? You say he has a good presentation style.

Heck, ya!! It's the only podcast I have ever listened to. I don't need any others.

I spent over a month on my 1-1/2 three times a week listening to his "Blueprint for Armageddon" podcasts this Spring. About 20 hours total. I think it's his best. Also loved the Fall of the Roman Republic. We did that one hers ago on our road rips to or out of state property. Got my youngest hooked on history.

I was just starting his podcasts on Genghis Khan when went to working from home. Hope to get back in the classroom soon so I can pick that one up again.

8 posted on 06/13/2020 5:45:32 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (Who stole my tagline? It was here yesterday.)
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To: C19fan

It was 1534 not 1634


9 posted on 06/13/2020 5:49:24 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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We should arrest these Antifa asses and hang them from a Church belltower in iron cages and let them starve, die and rot to birdfood like they did in Muenster. Very impressive when I visited there.


10 posted on 06/13/2020 5:57:37 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: C19fan
I never knew he had a village named after him.


11 posted on 06/13/2020 7:05:21 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; C19fan

All his stuff is brilliant. Cfan is referring to Supernova in the East. The great length of his work is like savoring a ten course banquet. All of his stuff is good. Hard to pick out but I’d say my favorites are Death Throes of the Republic, which is about Rome, and King of Kings, which is about the ancient Persian empire. Most of his stuff is free


12 posted on 06/13/2020 7:10:51 AM PDT by j.havenfarm ( Beginning my 20th year on FR! 2,500+ replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: Flick Lives

Check out John of Leyden (Anabaptists sect) who formed a communist totalitarian take over of Munster in the 1500s.

Brutal short rule and a very brutal ending to their rule. At least until recently you could still see the suspended cages (way up on the church) where the leaders remains had been displayed.

There is even a 19h century grand opera (G. Meyerbeer, Le prophète (The Prophet)) about the “utopia” (minus the brutal executions and the cages).


13 posted on 06/13/2020 7:15:21 AM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

He is good enough to listen to for hours. He is a bit morbid, but his delivery is empathetic and engaging. He does focus on the big personalities of history but also provide some good insight into the lives of ordinary people who were their contemporaries. I suggest you listen to some of the free content before you buy. For a single episode topic I’d suggest his “The Celtic Holocaust”. It is free.

A bit of a warning though. Carlin is mostly a moderate libertarian and is sympathetic to upheavals that deliver liberty to individuals at the expense of centralized power. Unfortunately, he cannot see that element in our President, even though he grudgingly admits the President is just the kind of person he would prescribe to re-launch the enlightenment movement. My guess is that he sees too much Caesar or Napoleon in Mr. Trump. Thus he comes off as a Never Trumper.

The NappyOne


14 posted on 06/13/2020 9:13:08 AM PDT by NappyOne
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To: NappyOne; j.havenfarm; KosmicKitty

Thanks to all three of you for your hearty recommendations. I’ll give him a try.

One podcast I really like is “In Our Time” by Melvin Laird. It’s a BBC production. He covers an amazing array of topics, all historical. Many are historical biographies, but he covers things like the evolution of horses and gin. All have a historical aspect. He brings on wonderful guests and he leads the discussion with them.

Highly recommended.


15 posted on 06/13/2020 11:01:28 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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