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Perhaps he needs to bring back the imagery of his mother, the Matilda for whom all this is theoretically being done. Perhaps he needs to think of his own mother, alone and unvisited in a disorienting institution. Maybe he could stand in the parking lot and wave.
1 posted on 05/05/2020 9:52:31 AM PDT by shortstop
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Having retired from a large,well known,hospital after 25 years I'm inclined to believe that “special measures” (my term) regarding visitors to hospitals and long term care facilities might be appropriate today.It would take a while to explain why I believe this but,long story short,there are many vulnerable people in such facilities and “hospital acquired infections” are found even in ordinary times and in the finest hospitals.
2 posted on 05/05/2020 9:58:51 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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I believe this rule of no visitors in hospitals and nursing homes in quite widespread, not just NY.

This has been the rule in Nebraska for weeks now.


3 posted on 05/05/2020 9:58:52 AM PDT by NEMDF
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I hate it in hospital. Especially if critically ill.
Nursing home a little more understandable but needs to be worked around.


4 posted on 05/05/2020 9:59:12 AM PDT by arkfreepdom
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A prelude for the government being able to take anyone they want, stick them in a home, and keep everyone away until they pass away.


5 posted on 05/05/2020 9:59:33 AM PDT by CatOwner
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A neighbor lady had a stroke 6 weeks ago, and her husband hasn;t been able to see her once! Not even in the ambulance!


8 posted on 05/05/2020 10:16:18 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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We have the same awful rules in California for Nursing Homes and hospitalized patients.

Patients in Nursing homes can’t have visitors even visitors living in the same NH. A friend died recently from the side effects of severe Parkinson’s. The last time he saw his wife, adult children and 20 something age wise grandkids was 13 March. The next day this bs started.

Another elderly woman moved from the east coast to be with her daughter. She developed pneumonia the first week of March,and was treated at a local hospital and sent to the same nursing home above about 10 March to regain her strength. She has not seen her daughter since the bs started. Her daughter decided to visit her mother regardless. The RN on duty told her to leave or be arrested.

Another friend had to have emergency gall bladder surgery/removal. About 10 days ago. His wife took him to the emergency room and was told to leave him in the car in the parking lot. As she registered him in a tent. She could only go into a small contained room with a couple of seats and bathroom. She did not see him for 5 days. Neither of them had the virus. Only 1 member of his family after a temp scan could be in that small room. Finally, they decided to go home at night. On the 5th day, post op, they released her husband. They reversed the procedure and wheeled him out to her vehicle parked outside the ER. They loaded him into their vehicle, and she drove home.

She and her family got apologies several times from the staff about the isolation. They said that they were following orders.


11 posted on 05/05/2020 10:29:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs/PRC, ESPN of America's, fake news media/CNN, Democrats, the real Deep Staters?)
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If you truly want to limit COVID 19 in hospitals and nursing homes, then QUARANTINE THEM.

No one enters in. No one enters out.

That includes doctors, nurses and staff.


12 posted on 05/05/2020 10:30:15 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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And it doomed scores to lonely unattended deaths.

Just take the time and think about this point for a moment. A terrible, terrible thing to do to someone. We can take precautions.

Matthew 25:35-40

"For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you made me welcome, lacking clothes and you clothed me, sick and you visited me, in prison and you came to see me." Then the upright will say to him in reply, "Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and make you welcome, lacking clothes and clothe you? When did we find you sick or in prison and go to see you?" And the King will answer, "In truth I tell you, in so far as you did this to one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did it to me."

14 posted on 05/05/2020 10:36:33 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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Perhaps he needs to think of his own mother, alone and unvisited in a disorienting institution.

I hope you don't believe that Coumo's mother would be subjected to the same rules of common folk.

17 posted on 05/05/2020 10:39:18 AM PDT by JonPreston
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“Spouses and children are forbidden, parents and friends may not enter”

I know a nurse who’s cared for two dying patients (dying of the WuFlu). She was perhaps most upset that their families could not visit, even as they lay dying. She held one man’s hand.


18 posted on 05/05/2020 10:50:25 AM PDT by combat_boots (FlynnGod bless Israel and all who protect and defend her. Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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This thread is full of morons who clearly don’t understand any of this. First, they whine about being able to break free from the tyranny! They screech that the “at risk” people should stay at home.

And now...they want to bitch about not being able to bring their asymptomatic bodies into the place where the MOST susceptible people are.

If you want to spend so much time with them, bring them to your home and care for them.

It’s like you have no regard for anyone’s safety, as long as you can get what you want.

What a bunch of babies.

And yes...my wife had half of her colon removed in the middle of this. My mother in law is in a SNF and hasn’t had visitors for both.

So, I understand the pain associated with this. What I don’t understand is how selfish and down right stupid so many Freepers are.


21 posted on 05/05/2020 10:55:56 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Extremely. One evening, I saw a middle aged couple standing outside the ground floor window of a care institution. The woman was calling, “Mother, I love you, Mother,” and her husband was holding up a small piece of paper to the window (I think it probably had mother’s name on it so the nurse could tell her). It literally made me cry.

It’s much crueler to die alone than anything else, and much crueler for the families and friends to know that this person (especially an older confused person) died alone. And not even the clergy was allowed to visit them.


25 posted on 05/05/2020 11:44:21 AM PDT by livius
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I pulled my 99 yo mother out of a nursing home when it became apparent I would not be able to visit her.

She is doing better at home with some nursing care I pay for along with some Medic Aid.

She will die at home when God calls her to a new home.


28 posted on 05/05/2020 12:02:03 PM PDT by wildbill (The older I get, the less 'life in prison" means to me)
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