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Two CDC Websites Give Vastly Different Coronavirus Death Tolls
The Daily Wire ^ | May 2, 2020 | Ashe Schow

Posted on 05/02/2020 8:15:10 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat

...The CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) website for the coronavirus lists the total deaths from COVID-19 – the disease caused by the virus – as 37,308 in the United States. That’s a much lower number than what has been reported in the media or by other coronavirus trackers. For example, the Johns Hopkins University coronavirus tracker, lists the number of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. at 65,645.

Even more confusing, a separate CDC website – dedicated exclusively to the novel coronavirus – lists the total COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. as 64,283. The NCHS website was updated on May 1, while the CDC’s coronavirus-specific website says it was updated on May 2...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailywire.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: clickbait; noob
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1 posted on 05/02/2020 8:15:11 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
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To: CheshireTheCat

Daily wire writers are either illiterate, lazy or just fishing for click-bait hoping no one will look at the details at the links.


2 posted on 05/02/2020 8:20:20 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Don’t worry, their vaccine will be just super!


3 posted on 05/02/2020 8:21:02 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Did you miss the commentary with the first site that said their numbers were 1-2 weeks behind?


4 posted on 05/02/2020 8:22:25 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Did you miss the commentary with the first site that said their numbers were 1-2 weeks behind?
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Hmmm.. 1-2 weeks and that equals about 27,000 DEATHS behind? Somebody is doing some serious cooking of the books!


5 posted on 05/02/2020 8:27:38 PM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS A PRETEXT)
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To: Black Agnes

“Did you miss the commentary with the first site that said their numbers were 1-2 weeks behind?”

1-8 weeks behind due to waiting for completed death certificate.

Also, even though updated on 5/1, data is only up to 4/25 deaths.


6 posted on 05/02/2020 8:28:11 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Maybe I don’t understand how COVID-19 deaths are tallied. Does the 37,308 COVID-19 number include the 16,564 listed as pneumonia and COVID-19, or do those numbers need to be added together? If added, that gets to almost 54,000, so that combined with the lag in reporting mentioned at the CDC page might get close to the 65,000 reported at the other site. If those aren’t the reasons for the discrepancy then I don’t know.


7 posted on 05/02/2020 8:28:50 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: CheshireTheCat

It’s not about your health!

“When the State tells you it’s safe to go to Home Depot to buy a sponge but dangerous to go and buy a flower, it’s not about your health.

When the State shuts down millions of private businesses but doesn’t lay off a single government employee, it’s not about your health.

When the State bans dentists because its unsafe, but deems an abortion visit is safe, it’s not about your health.

When the State prevents you from buying cucumber seeds because it’s dangerous, but allows personal lottery ticket sales, it’s not about your health.

When the State tells you it’s dangerous to go golf alone, fish alone or be in a motor boat alone, but your Governor can get his stage make-up done, and hair done for 5 TV appearances a week, it’s not about your health.

When the state puts you IN a jail cell for walking in a park with your child because it’s too dangerous but lets criminals OUT of jail cells for their health- It’s not about YOUR health!

When the state tells you it’s too dangerous to get treated by a doctor for chiropractic or physical therapy treatments yet deems a liquor store essential- It’s not about your health!

When the State lets you go to the grocery store or hardware store but is demanding mail-in voting, ITS NOT ABOUT YOUR HEALTH.

WAKE UP PEOPLE — If you think this is all about your health you’re mistaken! Please open your eyes! Stop being lead like blind sheep.”


8 posted on 05/02/2020 8:29:01 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs/PRC, ESPN of America's, fake news media/CNN, Democrats, the real Deep Staters?)
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To: House Atreides

“Hmmm.. 1-2 weeks and that equals about 27,000 DEATHS behind? Somebody is doing some serious cooking of the books!”

You really need to do your homework!


9 posted on 05/02/2020 8:29:13 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: House Atreides

We’ve been running 2k+ deaths/day for over a week. Nearly 3K today.


10 posted on 05/02/2020 8:30:36 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Grampa Dave
> It’s not about your health! ...

Your post is spot on !!!

11 posted on 05/02/2020 8:35:06 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING)
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“Why these numbers are different:
Provisional death counts may not match counts from other sources, such as media reports or numbers from county health departments. Our counts often track 1–2 weeks behind other data for a number of reasons: Death certificates take time to be completed. There are many steps involved in completing and submitting a death certificate. Waiting for test results can create additional delays. States report at different rates. Currently, 63% of all U.S. deaths are reported within 10 days of the date of death, but there is significant variation among jurisdictions. It takes extra time to code COVID-19 deaths. While 80% of deaths are electronically processed and coded by NCHS within minutes, most deaths from COVID-19 must be coded manually, which takes an average of 7 days. Other reporting systems use different definitions or methods for counting deaths.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/


12 posted on 05/02/2020 8:36:31 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Drago

Additionally, DW says data was updated on 5/1. True, but the chart is only for deaths through 4/25.


13 posted on 05/02/2020 8:38:45 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: SecondAmendment

Thanks. Please use here with your email lists.


14 posted on 05/02/2020 8:38:47 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs/PRC, ESPN of America's, fake news media/CNN, Democrats, the real Deep Staters?)
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To: Black Agnes

“CDC does not know the exact number of COVID-19 illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths for a variety of reasons. COVID-19 can cause mild illness, symptoms might not appear immediately, there are delays in reporting and testing, not everyone who is infected gets tested or seeks medical care, and there may be differences in how states and territories confirm numbers in their jurisdictions.”

How would they know if you are infected and die if you don’t get tested? Are they doing an autopsy to determine what the person died from?


15 posted on 05/02/2020 8:42:41 PM PDT by funfan
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To: TexasGator

Yep, the rush to get clickbait ad revenue leads to bad “reporting”/headlines.


16 posted on 05/02/2020 8:43:27 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Black Agnes

“We’ve been running 2k+ deaths/day for over a week. Nearly 3K today.”
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I’m simply questioning the discrepancies. How many deaths/day was the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) website (the one reporting the 37,308 US deaths from COVID-19) incrementing per day 2 weeks ago? How many NCHS accounted for COVID-19 deaths per day will be happening 2 weeks in the future from today?

The lack of curiosity and total trust in the (permanent) government by Americans sometimes astounds me.


17 posted on 05/02/2020 8:43:53 PM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS A PRETEXT)
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To: House Atreides

I actually READ the documentation with the numbers.

Did you?


18 posted on 05/02/2020 8:45:12 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: CheshireTheCat

The lower numbers are from death certificates issued by local governments and recorded by the CDC. If you go back about 10 days, we had about 37k reported deaths.

I know it’s hard for freepers to do, but if you go to the CDC site, it explains the data.


19 posted on 05/02/2020 8:51:00 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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To: Black Agnes

I actually READ the documentation with the numbers.

Did you?
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Yes I did. This is the 48th comment in this thread. You just read that number 48. Do you believe it or is it discrepant with some other number? Feel free to ignore all discrepancies anywhere you see them and believe whichever numbers you choose. It’s a free country. Sadly it might not always be and you’ll be required to believe whatever you are told by your overlords.


20 posted on 05/02/2020 8:52:11 PM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS A PRETEXT)
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