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Vanity: Once the All Clear is Given, How can Trump counter Governors Keeping their States Closed
Vanity | 4/6/2020 | USAFA92

Posted on 04/06/2020 8:30:56 PM PDT by usafa92

My first vanity is quite awhile. Let’s assume that in the coming 2-3 weeks, Trump gives the all clear that its time to get back to work. We already have several governors just looking for any reason to keep things closed. Inslee in WA just shut the schools down for the rest of year. Murphy in NJ is talking well into May before he opens things up. Cuomo will probably be a bit more flexible in NY but not much. Northam has VA closed until June. Wolf has PA closed indefinitely. DeWine has Ohio until May.

Point is, Trump can give the all clear but the governors can choose to keep their lockdowns continuing to hurt the economy. In an ironic way, it’s the states rights argument that conservatives have always championed. Of course, Democrats corrupt it for their own purposes. So, thoughts on how this opens back up uniformly and quickly to get the economy rolling again.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: coronavanity; coronavirus; freedom; liberty; nationalguard; states; trump; tyranny; vanity
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To: aimhigh

a virus is a virus and its here...it’ll be long time before we see it not affecting the people....but that is true of all viruses...


61 posted on 04/06/2020 9:33:42 PM PDT by cherry
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To: MinorityRepublican
there has been no surge....we've had our hospitals closed down for the "surge".....

can they just realize they made a mistake?

62 posted on 04/06/2020 9:35:12 PM PDT by cherry
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To: usafa92

It is called competition. Did you not consider that possibility?


63 posted on 04/06/2020 9:37:55 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN

When did socialist/communists like competition?


64 posted on 04/06/2020 9:45:36 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: libertylover

He can’t directly. The governors have the constitutional power to quarantine etc. He could withhold federal funds from states that go too long. That would be enjoined by an ObamaJudge. But the time the appeals are up, the quarantines will be over.


65 posted on 04/06/2020 9:49:01 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Fledermaus
Can you imagine being stuck in z house with no a/c for a month? All our mechanical trades are still working pipefitters/plumbers/ electricians. We're not working regular construction but performing service work. Plumbers are working 7 days a week. You can't flush baby wipes people.💩
66 posted on 04/06/2020 9:54:17 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Keyhopper
Plumbers are working 7 days a week. You can't flush baby wipes people.

Well, you can't make anything "idiot proof" as idiots the world over have demonstrated a sense of genius-level abilities in the ways they can defeat safeguards.
67 posted on 04/06/2020 10:01:32 PM PDT by krogers58
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To: aimhigh

There is no all clear. All the ‘flatten the curves’ are flawed. When you flatten the curve, the curve is extended. By flattening the curve, we have extended the amount of time the virus will be infecting people.

There is no all clear. All the ‘flatten the curves’ are flawed. When you flatten the curve, the curve is extended. By flattening the curve, we have extended the amount of time the virus will be infecting people.


68 posted on 04/06/2020 10:02:15 PM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: krogers58
Ive discovered over the years as soon as I make something idiot proof, they invent s better idiot😃
69 posted on 04/06/2020 10:05:36 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: cherry

Me too if I have to, but so far most essential stuff has stayed open on the sunny side of insanity!


70 posted on 04/06/2020 10:10:23 PM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: JCL3
There is no all clear. All the ‘flatten the curves’ are flawed. When you flatten the curve, the curve is extended. By flattening the curve, we have extended the amount of time the virus will be infecting people.

There is no all clear. All the ‘flatten the curves’ are flawed. When you flatten the curve, the curve is extended. By flattening the curve, we have extended the amount of time the virus will be infecting people.


In a sense, it is critical to "drag" this out, as it will give our hospitals more capability to place people on ventilators, and it will allow more time for anti-viral medications/immunizations. So, in a sense, slowing this thing down would be a minor miracle.
71 posted on 04/06/2020 10:11:00 PM PDT by krogers58
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To: usafa92

Trump can’t do it unilaterally. But Congress could do so, exercising its power under the Commerce Clause, which for once would actually be within the proper scope of that power. Also, a private individual could also challenge their actions in court under the Dormant Commerce Clause and the Article IV Privileges and Immunities Clause.


72 posted on 04/06/2020 10:23:01 PM PDT by The Pack Knight
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To: usafa92

He would cut off all federal unemployment benefits to the workers and money to the small business owners. That would prompt the people to demand the ban be lifted.


73 posted on 04/07/2020 12:36:28 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (They never thought she would lose)
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To: Helicondelta

Except Minnesota..

Our government is still sitting on 4 billion in over collected taxes.

Summer is coming. It’s getting warm out. Once the weather is sunny and 70 people are going to be done with the shut down.

Many of us already are.


74 posted on 04/07/2020 12:48:31 AM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: usafa92

Those up for reelection this year will face more pressure to reopen sooner than later.


75 posted on 04/07/2020 2:42:18 AM PDT by FLvoter
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To: usafa92

The Governors who opt to do it will hurt their own States/People...it will become obvious to the voters....


76 posted on 04/07/2020 4:25:46 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: libertylover

he can’t

some states will be closed longer than others.

The populaces of the states will ultimately determine what their governors and other officials do.


77 posted on 04/07/2020 5:02:47 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: DennisR

when do the teachers stop getting paid??


78 posted on 04/07/2020 5:06:10 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: right way right
I live in Washington and Trump should be pushing Boeing to open up again before the end of the month...

Not sure what they'll do with the airplanes...airlines don't want to take delivery on planes, and we're running out of storage space.

79 posted on 04/07/2020 5:18:46 AM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: Vendome

Exactly so. It will come down to $$$.


80 posted on 04/07/2020 5:28:09 AM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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