Thoroughly Democratic Whitman contrasted with European Beethooven

https://freedom-demokrasi-and-civilised-humanity.com/ ^ | 26th March 2010 | Ozguy1945

[Ozguy1945]

Donald Trump won the presidency by tuning in to the hearts of Americans who had been left out.

Are his current public ruminations on the nature of the American people and what sort of responses America CAN make to the C-19 crisis showing the same insight into his people?

How Whitmanesque is he in this democratic capacity of tuning in to a national psyche?

I have contrasted the thought of Whitman and Beethooven who both died on the same day, March 26, at different ends of the nineteenth century: https://freedom-demokrasi-and-civilised-humanity.com/2020/03/26/who-we-are-beethooven-and-whitman/

Both are undeniable giants in The West, but in Whitman I see a robust working people based spirit which is dead in too much of the modern world.

Dead in Europe. Dead in my country of birth, Australia.

But does this spirit live strong in Potus 45, The Donald?

[Hiddigeigei]

Beethooven? I see it is in the title of the original article, but the text has it right.

[Ozguy1945]

Sorry but I am not clear on what you see.

[Fiji Hill]

Roll Over Beethoven!

[Migraine]

The great men of our culture teach us who we are.

I think we know who we are. Great men of our culture help to put it into words (and sometimes they are correct).

In no way would I credit the artsy-fartsies with this self-defining accomplishment stated in the article. Instead, I'd credit Clint Eastwood, who said: "A man's got to know his limitations", "Do you feel lucky? Well do ya, punk?", or Fred Gwynne asking: "What's a yute?", or John Travolta saying: "But bacon tastes GOOD, porkchops taste GOOD."

[Ozguy1945]

thanks for extending the conversation ......

[pepsi_junkie]

My grandfather grew up across the street from Walt Whitman's home in Camden NJ. Actually he was probably a baby when Whitman died but his older sister was very much alive and about 9 years old at that time. She said that the kids were all told to avoid his house, he was a dirty old man.

Now, this is fact as conveyed to me personally by someone who actually was his neighbor. Doesn't mean he was a dirty old man, I don't know why people thought that (although I think some of his poetry was considered quite risque' back in the day and it may just be because of that). But that story always reminds me to take care in investing too much in your idols, if you look closely you will find most have feet of clay.

[Hiddigeigei]

Sorry but I am not clear on what you see.
I see the misspelling of Beethovan's name in the title of the article, but his name is spelled correctly in the text of the article.

[Ozguy1945]

Thanks for the knowledge - a perspective from close-up.

You cant always expect a great creator to be as good as what he creates.

[Migraine]

My pleasure. It’s a good conv.

[Migraine]

Feet of clay is right — case in point? Try Frank Lloyd Wright or Vincent Van Gogh or Margaret Mead.

[Ozguy1945]

Thank you.

That is what freedom of speech does best.