Posted on 03/18/2020 5:32:26 AM PDT by Enlightened1
The rate of the number of individuals who died from the flu to the number of individuals who were estimated to have had the flu is .1% (22,552 / 36 million). This is an estimate and the amount used above by the Director General of the WHO.
However, the rate of individuals who died from the flu to the number of individuals who were confirmed to have had the flu is around 10% (22,000/ 222,552). This is based on actual data similar to the rate for the coronavirus above.
Based on the above numbers, the actual fatality rate for those who were confirmed to have had the coronavirus is 3.4%.
The actual mortality rates for those who were confirmed to have had the flu are around 10%.
The actual data shows that the mortality rate for those who had the flu (10%) is almost twice as high than for those with the coronavirus (3.8%).
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See post 19 on the age.
Now they are saying anyone who dies that has the symptoms is because of Coronavirus.
Never mind any other medical conditions and age that have the same symptom.
1500 people dying in the US each week since October from influenza. No shut downs for that.
Maybe we should shut down schools, sports, gatherings, elections, and restaurants on a permanent basis. If we can save a single life, it will be worth it. American lives matter!
The rate of the number of individuals who died from the flu to the number of individuals who were estimated to have had the flu is .1% (22,552 / 36 million). This is an estimate and the amount used above by the Director General of the WHO.
However, the rate of individuals who died from the flu to the number of individuals who were confirmed to have had the flu is around 10% (22,000/ 222,552). This is based on actual data similar to the rate for the coronavirus above.
Yep
so if you have that, then they say you have Coronavirus. Never mind being allergies, a cold, heart disease or some other medical issue
you do understand that isn’t how it works right genius
I’m sure it’s not a problem, and it’s all fake, and it’s just trying to get Trump, and Trump is also trying to get Trump, and Dr. Fauci is just full of crap.
2018-2019 seasonal flu deaths, US only: 35,000. (CDC)
2029-2020 on pace for 20,000.
This article is misleading. The reason only 222k people were tested for the flu in the US is because the symptoms are almost always so mild that there is no reason to see a doctor or be tested. The estimate that 36mm people have the flu in an average year in the US seems reasonable. I had it 2 years ago. We’ve all had it. This situation is one where it is important to remember who is dealing with facts and who is full of s**t. The Gateway Pundit is an unreliable source, putting it mildly.
The Democrats and the DC Establishment have been calling for wrecking the economy. They made no secret about it.
Math appears to be really hard for this Joe Hoft guy rambling on about the WHO. The White House/CDC and 100 or so hundred countries saw a bad regular flu season at about a 0.10%-0.14% fatality rate and COVID-19 currently at about a 0.9% (Switzerland & S. Korea) to 1.7% (USA) to 7% (Italy) fatality rate. Even allowing for “undiscovered cases” (denominator) in the thousands that is still 8,000 fatalities per 1 million cases for COVOD -19 and about 1,200 per 1 million for “regular flu”. Not to mention that COVID-19 cases move to viral pneumonia at a greater rate than regular flu & in regular flu cases it is bacterial pneumonia at a lesser rate that can be treated with antibiotics. Not so for viral pneumonia.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Yes, well obviously that’s what’s going on here, and Trump decided to help them because reasons.
Actually, I think the economy is going to be way worse than wrecked, and a large swath of Democrat voters are going to get very sick, very soon.
we will only have good data after the crisis has passed and we can analyze a lot of data at leisure. Until then it’s just a guess
Good post.
And note that even the lowest mortality numbers skyrocket with advanced age. Looks like an Ezekiel Emanuel design.
No. Watch the daily new deaths. So far it all noise and no signal. That should change in the next ten days as more people die. Then we will know where we are.
Yep, and I was being very low/conservative with my numbers due to a lack of testing of the general population. “Enlightened1’s” own chart at post #19 shows a 3.18% fatality rate for COVID-19.
There are many in congress who are globalists and despise the American Citizen and American Freedoms.
What you can do, is look at hospitalization for influenza as a comparable proxy for who's got Coronavirus - at least there is something 'official' in that denominator. It's not a perfect apples-to-apples comparison, but at least it's fruit salad. Then you can calculate the CFR for Coronavirus using deaths / (deaths + resolved cases).
THEN you can do a proper comparison.
Use this CDC link and you'll find this data:
Let's use this data:
| Symptomatic Illnesses | Medical Visits | Hospitalizations | Deaths | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Season | Estimate | 95% U I | Estimate | 95% U I | Estimate | 95% U I | Estimate | 95% U I |
| 2010-2011 | 21,000,000 | (20,000,000 – 25,000,000) | 10,000,000 | (9,300,000 – 12,000,000) | 290,000 | (270,000 – 350,000) | 37,000 | (32,000 – 51,000) |
| 2011-2012 | 9,300,000 | (8,700,000 – 12,000,000) | 4,300,000 | (4,000,000 – 5,600,000) | 140,000 | (130,000 – 190,000) | 12,000 | (11,000 – 23,000) |
| 2012-2013 | 34,000,000 | (32,000,000 – 38,000,000) | 16,000,000 | (15,000,000 – 18,000,000) | 570,000 | (530,000 – 680,000) | 43,000 | (37,000 – 57,000) |
| 2013-2014 | 30,000,000 | (28,000,000 – 33,000,000) | 13,000,000 | (12,000,000 – 15,000,000) | 350,000 | (320,000 – 390,000) | 38,000 | (33,000 – 50,000) |
| 2014-2015 | 30,000,000 | (29,000,000 – 33,000,000) | 14,000,000 | (13,000,000 – 16,000,000) | 590,000 | (540,000 – 680,000) | 51,000 | (44,000 – 64,000) |
| 2015-2016 | 24,000,000 | (20,000,000 – 33,000,000) | 11,000,000 | (9,000,000 – 15,000,000) | 280,000 | (220,000 – 480,000) | 23,000 | (17,000 – 35,000) |
| 2016-2017 | 29,000,000 | (25,000,000 – 45,000,000) | 14,000,000 | (11,000,000 – 23,000,000) | 500,000 | (380,000 – 860,000) | 38,000 | (29,000 – 61,000) |
| Preliminary estimates* | Estimate | 95% UI | Estimate | 95% UI | Estimate | 95% UI | Estimate | 95% UI |
| 2017-2018* | 45,000,000 | (39,000,000 – 58,000,000) | 21,000,000 | (18,000,000 – 27,000,000) | 810,000 | (620,000 – 1,400,000) | 61,000 | (46,000 – 95,000) |
| 2018-2019* | 35,520,883 | (31,323,881 – 44,995,691) | 16,520,350 | (14,322,767 – 21,203,231) | 490,561 | (387,283 – 766,472) | 34,157 | (26,339 – 52,664) |
* Estimates from the 2017-2018 and 2018-2019 seasons are preliminary and may change as data are finalized.
Here are my calculations:
| Date | Deaths/Hospitalizations |
| 2010-2011 | 12.76% |
| 2011-2012 | 8.57% |
| 2012-2013 | 7.54% |
| 2013-2014 | 10.86% |
| 2014-2015 | 8.64% |
| 2015-2016 | 8.21% |
| 2016-2017 | 7.60% |
| Preliminary estimates* | |
| 2017-2018* | 7.53% |
| 2018-2019* | 6.96% |
If I do the calcs this way, using the JH global data, you get total deaths at this moment of 8,205 and recoveries of 82,107, for a rate of 9.09%. This is higher than that for influenza in all but two years.
I'm not saying that this warrants closing down the entire nation and vaporizing the economy. But it DOES warrant prudent action and insouciance is just stupid.
And for the record, this is the only authoritative WHO that I recognize:
The Retard Brigade, who cant see any threat in the coronavirus is also bad at math. who woulda thunk it.
The precedent for an 80% infection rate is the 80% of the population in any country whose brains have been melted by exposure to state run media.
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