Posted on 02/01/2020 11:31:57 AM PST by Jack Black
So, I am thinking about the upcoming primaries, and what the most strategically effective way to approach them is.
I live and vote in Washington State, which in recent years has had our long established voting procedures radically altered by Team Donkey, the progressives and the Washington Grange (acting as useful idiots for the Democrats)
We've gone to a "Jungle Primary" for all state and national races, except the Presidential race. I know many other states are being (or have been) pushed in this direction. The Democrat goal is to have general elections that feature only two candidates, both Democrats. This isn't merely a weird speculation, the 2018 California race for the U.S. Senate had only two names on the general election ballot: Diane Feinstein, Democrat and State Senator Kevin de León, also a Democrat.
This is what they aim to do all over, with these new Jungle Primary laws.
The Presidential Nomination contests are a bit more complicated. The legislature, and even Citizen Initiatives, can not simply dictate policy to the Replublican and Democratic parties (at both the National and Washington State level) -- so instead they made smaller changes.
But the impetus, to tear down party power and make "everything open to everyone" is the same.
In Washington we will get both a Dem and GOP primary ballot and can vote either, regardless of party registration (which has become pretty meaningless, because of jungle primaries).
So the question for Freepers is: should I (and others in this position, which is millions of Trump supporters) cross over and vote in the Dem primary?
In thinking about this I have made these judgements:
Given all of the above I feel that it makes sense for me to use my vote to help Trump as much as possible in the Primary phase, and that appears to be voting in the Democratic primary.
My strategy is to vote for which ever candidates seems mostly likely to force a brokered convention, which I feel will do the most harm to Democratic unity.
A Democratic convention which opens with no candidate having enough delegates to ensure a first round majority will quickly devolve into a spectacular food fight.
Imagine Bernie Bros. losing on the second ballot, when the "Super Delegates" are allowed to cast their votes for the first time. It will be the second convention in a row where Bernie loses because the party big-wigs did him in!
The DNC rules give delegates to any candidate who scores over 15% in a primary. My strategy will be to vote for the third place candidate who is going to break that threshold. The more people winning delegates the better the chances of a brokered convention!
An alternate strategy might be to pick the Dem who I sincerely think would be the least-horrible should they end up in the job. But, they are all very horrible, so I find that criteria hard to figure out. If I was able to see one who is "less bad" that might be the most patriotic thing to do.
The next President is going to be either of Trump or the Democratic nominee. What a horrible thought, given Biden, Bernie and Warren are the three front runners, and #4 is probably the wretched gun-banner Bloomberg.
Guys like Yang, an amusing buffoon, are way under the 5% theshold, voting for him likely has no effect on the contest under the current rules.
If the crooked Dems get you registered as a Dem, you will vote Democrat even after you’ve died.
This used to be one of the big things about the early primary in Wisconsin - Democrats did not have to register as either party, and in fact there was no formal registration roll kept by the election authorities. You could just walk in that day, declare to the clerk for either the Republican or Democrat primary ballot (but not both), then cast your ballot. If the Republican ballot was chosen, Democrats would gleefully mark the name of either the weakest candidate, or the least Republican of the bunch. But then, Republicans could just as gleefully vote their preference for the Democrat candidate who would provide the easiest target in the general election.
I think that is the reason that a lot of candidates of both parties intentionally avoided the Wisconsin primary. It was the “graveyard of Presidential campaigns”.
Pretty sure that system is now changed.
Wait for a "free postage paid" envelope (preferably one for contributions) get a box and fill it with bricks (for bonus satisfaction, write "build that wall" on each brick) and mail it to the Democrats taping the "postage paid address envelope to the top of the box. Due to Ted Kaczinski laws, you can't put it in a mailbox, you'll have to go to the Post Office to send this off. Tell the postal worker this is your collection of rare gold coins you want them to have. Write "Fragile" on the outside of the box.
Rush speaking about Operation Chaos a couple of weeks ago:
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/01/20/liberals-still-paranoid-about-operation-chaos/
You may be able to remove RINOs and give new up and coming stars a chance if you make your vote count in the GOP primary.
Yes! Vote for Breadline Bernie!
Ideally, he either gets the nomination
or
The Donkeys are forced to obviously cheat him yet again.
Either because they’re stuck with a completely unelectable candidate or because all the Bernie Bots stay home in November in disgust, they’d be completely screwed.
No. I think “operation cuss” probably got us lousy candidates our own. It’s distracting and keeps us away from what we need to do - which is to use our vote to get good candidates further down the ticket, since nobody is running against Trump at the moment. Remember, you have to register as a Dem to vote in their primaries in most states, and also you can vote in only one primary.
Back in 2008, I crossed and voted for Obama to beat Hillary since I hated McCain. I bring it up every time some lib wants to hang a “racist” tag on me.
If I lived in Iowa or New Hampshire, I might show up with a “Bernie/Soleimani 2020” sign.
There is another OPERATION CHAOS... in the DEMOCRAT PARTY.
I did in 2016, and I will do it again.
I voted against Hillary twice. (Once in the primary, and once in the general.) Great feeling.
I registered as a Democrat. They give me a free ride to the polls--Suckers. I always take their "voting guides" so I know who to vote against.
Also, as a "Democrat," I am more likely to be interviewed afterward. I tell them, "I am Democrat, and I voted for Trump," then give them the reasons why the Dem candidate is so awful.
I would but MN now requires you declare a party, and they get all your info.
not that I’d expect democrat door knockers out here (maybe they can bring my usps packages in another thread with so it’s not a wasted trip..) But I don’t need the junk mail or phone calls.
Please don’t do that. Cheating will get us nowhere
You can be assured of getting an awful Democratic presidential candidate without any effort at all on your part.
The Rats do the same thing to us, so why not?
NO.
Use your local primaries to unseat an incumbent RINO.
We are going to beat any of these Democrat clowns.
Please! It’s democrat; not democratic. There’s a huge difference between democrat and democratic.
We live in a democratic republic; not a democrat republic. I think the dems use that bit of confusion to their advantage every chance they get. Dems aren’t even democratic any longer. They cheat, lie, and steal to win. Not democratic at all.
Now that we have that straightened out; are you asking if we should vote in democrat primaries as republicans? I think that depends on the state you live in.
The Democrats do it in Alaska senate seat.
To be honest, I would have voted for Bernie over Bush or Kasich in 2016. Two reasons. Bernie wasn’t the establishment and because the best outcome was Bush or Kasich for eight years if they won. If Bernie won, in four years we had a chance of something better.
When you look at what Trump has accomplished in just 4 years, the same amount of time with Bernie scares the hell out of me!!!
I plan to vote for Bernie here in the Virginia primary, which is an open primary. Plus we, the GOP, cancelled our primary for Super Tuesday. Might as well vote for the most toxic candidate.
“I registered as a Democrat. They give me a free ride to the polls—Suckers. I always take their “voting guides” so I know who to vote against.
Also, as a “Democrat,” I am more likely to be interviewed afterward. I tell them, “I am Democrat, and I voted for Trump,” then give them the reasons why the Dem candidate is so awful.”
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