Posted on 01/14/2020 7:34:20 PM PST by blueyon
Is POTUS walking into a trap in the Senate?
You have to convict before you can vote to prevent from ever holding office again...
So your argument is moot.
The 51 votes to prevent federal office for life is for punishment.... if you are not convicted there is no punishment.
Good!
GREAT MEMES!
Too kind.
Some dingbat is going to appear and shriek Trump grabbed her by the yin yang 40 years ago, without any evidence. Of course all that matters is the seriousness of the charge, not the lack of evidence.
The GOP wants Trump gone....the only way they can do that is drag it out so Trumps poll numbers tank...and hope he loses the election...
They will say we acquitted him it’s not are fault...
There is a very real chance it could flip the Senate to Democrats since a lot of Republicans are up for election this time around
It could also cost Pelosi the house.
Its pretty obvious that Democrats counter to Spygate and Ukraine corruption is that Putins spooks hacked the system and planted all sort of fake evidence to frame the Bidens, Obama, Comey, Brennan et all. in collusion with President Trump. Get ready, its coming. Schiff is already laying the ground work and setting up the narrativ.e
President Trump, on the other hand, has not yet begun to play his cards and its not likely he is going to hold back at this point as its now or never time for him
Fake info
If not found guilty on impeachment charges the trial is over
it would be too tempting for traitors like Romney to use.
Woe unto any Republican who votes against the President. This is not a game.
Bkmk trap
Civil war?
I’m thinking I will find out where the Senate offices are in arizona and pay them a nice visit.
Hopefully I could bring a couple hundred with me...
Suspend Congress , assume plenary powers, declare martial law. WE are with you!
While certainly hoping otherwise, like many other known guilty, (who claim they are innocent), some of this may depend on how close Durham or Trump get, or are perceived to get, to McConnels family.
McConnels son/family did get rich, and his wife Chou is arguably shades of poster child for Federal insider influence through trade and shipping, and her Fed office position, specifically dealing with China.
I was born in 1946 and grew up in family where politics were important and lots of table talk. Seems to me in the late 50’s I started hearing “Loyal Opposition” when folks were talking about Republicans.
Exactly.
Yes he is and he will come out a winner. Now the House looks bad, soon the Senate will join in and try as they may to destroy the constitution may end up only hurting Congress. Hopefully Roberts has some balls but not too sure.
I’ve been praying and very concerned. Wish the Senate
would
vote to dismiss.
NOT that I think he has done anything wrong, but that the
DEMS and RINOS will fabricate something.
YES let us all keep praying for the Mighty Power of God
to stay the hand of the enemy, satan!
NO I didn’t capitalize “ satan”... deliberately!
We cannot ever underestimate Pelosi’s ambitions——House Dems KNOW their specious impeachment articles would fail to convict Trump in the Republican Senate.
Ergo, Dems deviously in an addition joker in their already stacked impeachment deck, namely the remote possibility
predicated on a long-ago law, not allowing Trump to take office even if he is reelected next year. It is indeed a
crass partisan maneuver that would cause the Founders to spin in their graves.
EXCERPT the two Articles of Impeachment include the wording that Trump should not only be impeached, tried and removed from office, but that he also warrants disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
As the precedent set in the three previous trials of Federal judges has never been reversed by the Senate or adjudicated in any Federal court, the disqualification of President Trump would probably be decided by a separate majority vote, rather than the two-thirds vote on the two Articles of Impeachment.
Therefore, even though there is little doubt that a two-thirds vote for conviction and removal from office could not be obtained in the Republican-controlled Senate, if disqualification is brought to a separate majority vote the picture would be far less clear in a Senate where the GOP has only a fifty-three to forty-seven vote majority and just four Republican defections could tip the scales of justice against the president. In the case of a tie vote, unlike a regular Senate session or trial, a presidential impeachment trial is presided over by Chief Justice Roberts of the Supreme Court and he would cast the tie-breaking vote rather than the vice-president.
Rebecca Ballhouse, the White House reporter for the Wall Street Journal, has pointed out the anomaly that had the disqualification clause not been included, even if the president were to be convicted and removed from office, he could still run for reelection next year. A second possible and more nefarious scenario, however, would be the case of President Trump being acquitted on the Articles themselves by a two-thirds vote, and then by a simple majority vote, being disqualified from taking office even if he is reelected. The Senate as a Court of Impeachment will be sailing in highly unchartered waters, as the clause citing disqualification has never been used in a presidential impeachment trial and the compass for the Senate guidelines as to the procedures to be followed for such a vote seem to point in two different directions. While the Senate rules state in one section that if, after a vote on the Articles, the respondent is found not guilty on all charges, the Court of Impeachment would then adjourn. The following section, however, says that adjournment would take place after a verdict of guilty or not guilty has been rendered and the disposition of the disqualification, if presented has taken place. Since the procedure for the taking of such votes is not clearly delineated, new guidelines may have to be established for a trial that could result in a truly catch 22 situation.
As in 1868, the overriding desire to rid the country of what is somehow considered to be an illegitimate presidency has led to a hastily devised impeachment based on extremely questionable evidence.
(https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/blog/the-ghosts-of-impeachment past)
If McConnel does not end this soap opera and dismiss and there is a trial, it will become a Fuster-Cluck just like Russiagate and Ukraingate.
No “NEW” witnesses or documents allowed. Try
the case on articles submitted. The Dems had
their chance.
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