Posted on 12/21/2019 11:01:44 AM PST by blam
The Democrats declared war yesterday. Not on Donald Trump but on the United States and the Constitution.
What started as a coup to overturn the 2016 election has now morphed into a Civil War as Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Fran-feces) presided over the passage of a bill which creates a clear Constitutional Crisis.
And that means we have multiple factions vying for control of our government, the definition of a Civil War.
In passing these articles of impeachment against President Trump Congress has arrogated to itself powers it does not have.
The first article asserts a motive to Trump’s actions to invalidate his role as chief law enforcement officer for the country. It doesn’t matter if you like him or any President having this power, he does have it.
Read that first article and then apply it to a country other than Ukraine where Trump didn’t have ‘probable cause’ for investigation into corruption and malfeasance there.
That could be Abuse of Power.
But this happened in Ukraine where Trump clearly has probable cause.
The following is the scenario the first impeachment article is asserting as the basis for abuse of power, through ascribing political motives to the President:
One day President Trump wakes up and says, “Shit! Joe Biden’s leading me in the polls. I need to do something about this.”
So, Trump twirls his orange comb-over and calls up the Prime Minister of Armenia, a Russian ally, to whom we’ve pledged aid. Since it’s a Russian ally and Trump may have colluded with the Russians, they would be a good candidate to help him.
But Joe Biden has no history of diplomacy or oversight in Armenia as Vice-President. There’s no record of any contact of any kind with Biden in Armenia, for argument’s sake.
Trump then, during the phone call, shakes down the Armenian PM for that aid, explicitly saying he must create dirt on Joe Biden or he would withhold appropriated aid funds to the country.
Then, after getting caught, Trump tries to hide the record of the phone call by hiding behind Executive Privilege.
That would be Abuse of Power and an impeachable offense. It would be regrettable but indefensible that the odious jackals in Congress were right to impeach him. They would, actually, be defending the Constitution and fully within their rights.
But, that’s not what happened.
Biden was put in charge of Ukraine by President Obama. He had full discretion on policy towards Ukraine and was caught on tape bragging about doing exactly what the impeachment article is accusing Trump of doing. Shaking Ukraine down for favors in order to get $1 billion in aid.
Since the prosecutor who Biden had fired was investigating corruption into his son Hunter’s involvement with Ukrainian gas company Burisma, this admission is pretty damning, showing clear personal motive to use his office to stop investigation into his family.
This is Abuse of Power. This is subjecting U.S. foreign policy to the whims of an elected official, squelching an investigation into his personal family, using the office for personal gain.
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Just curious, why did you post this garbage?
Posting this civil war stuff is not only idiotic but it labels FR as some type of nutwad site.
Fringe whackos really need to go elsewhere with their nonsense.
Just my opinion.
Heard one of our Congressmen say, on the floor, guns aren’t used until late in a revolution. Revolution is conceived, develops over time and begins to unsettle normal. The push becomes a shove and brawls; eventually all out combat.
If not dealt with before it becomes too strong, it is not settle civilly.
It has become too strong... Hard decisions are upon us all.
Every prophet was once a heretic.
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Failed to transmit articles to Senate before adjournment—impeachment failed in the House.
Which side will our south haters here join this time I wonder
I question whether those impeachment articles live on to the next House. A House “business (not talking about legislation” doesn’t bind the next House.
Blam has been in this site 18 years longer than you and you’re telling him/her what and what not to post? You know what you can do with your opinion.
In whose eyes?
We are already at civil war 2. Just that the shooting hasn’t started yet
Virginia is now an absolute irony.
We’ll see.
[[push becomes a shove and brawls]]
We’re already at that point- liberals are attempting to beat the hell out of conservatives openly and brazenly- they attack anyone wearing MAGA hats- doesn’t matter how old. what gender- they attack anyone in a hat or shirt-
Thanks blam.
If a grand jury or district attorney indicts a person, but the prosecutor never files the indictment with the court, it means the person was never charged of a crime.
Similarly id the House of Reps passes articles of impeachment but does not send them for trial to the Senate, the impeachment is meaningless, null and void.
Buntcha crap.
I dislike overuse of “civil war”.
Nobody is shooting, nobody has been openly killed.
Democrats are still (barely) playing by the rules. Straining the limits, yes, being stupid about it, yes, but still by the rules: they wrote up Articles of Impeachment (devoid of actual enumeration of crimes), voted, passed. They’re still adhering to law.
When someone shoots political opponents, then we’ll be in “civil war”. Not before.
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