Posted on 07/28/2019 2:43:21 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
"Let's have a conversation about race"
"We need to confront white people and make whiteness uncomfortable"
"White people need to sit down and talk earnestly about race"
"White people in suburbia and ruralia need to sit down and look at themselves in the mirror"
And it is not black people doing this, it is leftist suburban whites, that are doing this.
With Trump's remarks over the past few weeks, leftists will call any Trump supporter a racist, now.
How the hell did they take over suburbia (Maplewood, NJ, etc.)
Not exactly a good starting point. Nowhere to go but down from there.
My answer is Fek off!
You forgot all about the part where they pass the plate for the “offering”...
My reply to any of it?? “Piss off...” then if they persist frankly say “...if it wasnt for Whites, the world would still be living in caves and mud huts...now.... piss off...”
I've never owned slaves
You've never picked cotton
There's nothing to talk about.
Race is such a problem because whites are blamed for all the problems in the black community leading to resentment on both sides. The REAL discussion that needs to take place is the fact that black problems have little or nothing to do with white people. Instead they arise from:
- Well established racial differences in IQ.
- Cultural lack of emphasis on education.
- Multi-generational poverty associated with single parent families.
- Other behavioral issues including high incidence of drug use, crime rates and violence. These are also associated with single parent families.
The problems associated with the black community will never be solved by continually promoting racial division based on imaginary micro-aggressions and white privilege.
How about "Eat My Shorts"?
I am not in the least interested in having "a conversation about race" with virulent racists. Because that is what they all are. They see everything through a prism of skin color and throw charges of "racism" around so meaninglessly and haphazardly that it means absolutely nothing.
Start with what’s happened to Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis, Chicago and other large cities with substantial black populations.
“Say hello to my little friend.”
Mine would be "What for? I already had a conversation with God about race and he said 'in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right is welcome to Him' (Acts 10:35) So every man is equal before God and I show no partiality to anyone. I'm not prejudiced against anyone, and I can also see that there's no need for affirmative action (discrimination), nor normalizing criminal punishment rates, etc."
Actually, we need to make stupidity uncomfortable. I'd prefer lethal, but uncomfortable will be acceptable as an interim alternative.
Then they will bring up “white flight, redlining, suburban segregation, unequal access to job training, healthcare”
Sure lets.....
3% of population, Black males 14-35
commit 1/2 of all violent crimes, 1/2 of all murders.
Blacks committed 433,934 crimes against Whites
Whites committed 55,685 crimes against Blacks
14000 Black on White Rapes
White on Black Rapes statistically 0
(2007 FBI Crime Stats)
Blacks 40 times as likely to assault a White as the reverse.
Violent Crime
Blacks 24.7/100k 7x higher violent crime rate
White 3.4/100k
In 2012, blacks committed 560,600 acts of violence against whites, and whites committed 99,403 acts of violence against blacks, according to data from the National Crime Victimization Survey provided to the author:
Blacks 13.2% of the population Commit 52.2% of murders, homicides
Blacks 6.8 times more likely to commit Murder
93% of Blacks killed by Black offender.
2013 409 Whites murdered by Blacks
189 Blacks murdered by Whites
Blacks 6X more likely to commit murder.
12X more likely to murder person of different race.
Of 660K interracial (B&W) crimes, Blacks were the perps
In 85%. 27X more likely to attack then Whites.
2014 NY
Blacks 31X more likely to be arrested for murder
(C/W race of alleged perps)
98.4X more likely to be arrested for shooting.
2015
Police killing of Blacks 4% of Black homicides.
Police killing of UNARMED Blacks 0.4 % of all killings
93% of Blacks killed by another Black
SF 5 year study
Blacks 9.6X more likely to be charged with resisting arrest.
2015 DOJ
Philly study on “threat perception failure” ( officer shoots person falsely thinking they are armed), Black PO’s 2X more likely to shoot unarmed Black.
2002-13
Murder leading cause of death for Black Males 15-34 ,
Almost all caused by another Black.
2015 When controlled for IQ, lifetime record of violence
NO difference in arrest rates by race.
Police 18X more likely to be killed by a black assailant then an unarmed black by an officer
32 unarmed blacks killed out of 19 million black males 0.0000018
21 police killed out of 628000
.000033
According to the most recent study by the Dept. of Justice, although blacks were only about 15% of the population in the 75 largest counties in the U.S., they were charged with 62% of all robberies, 57% of murders, and 45% of assaults.
In New York City, blacks commit over three quarters of all shootings, though they are only 25% of the city’s population. Whites, by contrast, commit only 2% of all shootings, though they are 34% of the population
According to the FBI’s 2016 Uniform Crime Report (UCR,) blacks committed 60.1% of all homicides in the US — the vast majority by black males aged 14-35, which is approximately 4% of the US population. The UCR also disclosed that 72% of all robberies in 2016 were committed by blacks.
NFL player Colin Kaepernick, who started the protests, did so over the supposed widespread instances of police brutality against blacks. Kaepernick said, “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. ... There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.” According to the Centers for Disease Control, since 1968 police killings of blacks have declined nearly 75 percent. According to The Washington Post, almost 500 whites were killed by cops in 2015, an average of more than one a day. Two hundred fifty-nine blacks were killed by the police. Most suspects killed by police had a weapon.
Now for some perspective.
Do you know anyone who has been struck by lightning? Neither do most people. Yet each year an average of about 300 Americans are killed or injured by lightning. That’s approximately 40 more than the number of blacks killed by the police in 2015. Is there an “epidemic” of Americans being struck and injured by lightning? We don’t know the number of black men injured by lightning every year, but let’s assume the number is 7 percent of the total people struck by lightning, mirroring the percentage of the black male population in America. That brings the average number of black men injured by lightning to about 21.
Out of the 965 people killed by the police in 2015 (as of Dec. 24), the Post reported (on Dec. 26) that “less than 4 percent” involved an unarmed black man and a white cop, the fact pattern most commonly referred to by anti-police activists like Black Lives Matter. Last year, The Washington Post put the number of unarmed black men killed by the police at 17, less than the number of blacks likely struck by lightning. Twenty-two unarmed whites were killed by the police. Any death that results from police misconduct is one death too many, but the point is that police killing of a suspect is rare, no matter the race of the suspect or the cop. And a police shooting of an unarmed black male is still more rare.
But blacks are routinely and disproportionately being stopped, pulled over and/or arrested due to police misconduct, right?
No, not according to numerous studies, many by the government. Take traffic stops. In 2013, the National Institute of Justice, the research and evaluation agency of the Department of Justice, published a study of whether the police, as a result of racial bias, stop blacks more than other drivers. The conclusion? Any racial disparity in traffic stops is due to “differences in offending” in addition to “differences in exposure to the police” and “differences in driving patterns.”
According to Philippe Lemoine, writing in National Review, a white person is, on average, more likely to have interactions with the police in any year than a black person, 20.7 percent vs. 17.5 percent. It is true that a black person is more likely to have multiple contacts with the police. But according to the data, multiple contacts with the police are rare, as well. Lemoine writes that 1.2 percent of white men have more than three contacts with the police in a year versus 1.5 percent of black men.
But what about the experience of a black person with the police versus that of a white person? The DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics regularly studies this, too. Every year, the BJS surveys a representative sample of 70,000 people. Among the questions, the survey asks whether respondents had contact with the police in the last 12 months. If the answer is “yes,” the survey asks a number of follow-up questions, including about use of force.
Let’s concentrate on cases involving use of force.
Lemoine writes: “Only 0.6 percent of black men experience physical force by the police in any given year, while approximately 0.2 percent of white men do. ... Moreover, keep in mind that these tallies of police violence include violence that is legally justified.” And keep in mind the much higher levels of crime by mostly black males. It is estimated that half of all homicides are committed by, and mostly against, black males.
In 1995, the federal government looked at 42,500 defendants in the nation’s 75 largest counties. A government statistician, Patrick A. Langan, found “no evidence that, in the places where blacks in the United States have most of their contacts with the justice system, that system treats them more harshly than whites.” So much for the so-called “institutional racism” in the criminal justice system.
Recently, in Illinois, in a kids’ 8-and-under football league, the entire team, which appeared to be all black, including the coach, took a knee during the national anthem. Asked why, one third-grade player parroted Kaepernick, saying, according to the coach, “Because black people are getting killed, and nobody’s going to jail.”
Facts don’t matter. The coach, presented with a teachable moment, fumbled it away
Since we’re on the subject:
The Color of Crime
The evidence suggests that if there is police racial bias in arrests it is negligible. Victim and witness surveys show that police arrest violent criminals in close proportion to the rates at which criminals of different races commit violent crimes.
There are dramatic race differences in crime rates. Asians have the lowest rates, followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups.
In 2013, a black was six times more likely than a non-black to commit murder, and 12 times more likely to murder someone of another race than to be murdered by someone of another race.
In 2013, of the approximately 660,000 crimes of interracial violence that involved blacks and whites, blacks were the perpetrators 85 percent of the time. This meant a black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa. A Hispanic was eight times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa.
In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely. For the crime of “shooting” — defined as firing a bullet that hits someone — a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely.
If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent.
In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent. In 2015, a black person was 2.45 times more likely than a white person to be shot and killed by the police. A Hispanic person was 1.21 times more likely. These figures are well within what would be expected given race differences in crime rates and likelihood to resist arrest.
In 2015, police killings of blacks accounted for approximately 4 percent of homicides of blacks. Police killings of unarmed blacks accounted for approximately 0.6 percent of homicides of blacks. The overwhelming majority of black homicide victims (93 percent from 1980 to 2008) were killed by blacks.
Both violent and non-violent crime has been declining in the United States since a high in 1993. 2015 saw a disturbing rise in murder in major American cities that some observers associated with “depolicing” in response to intense media and public scrutiny of police activity.
I remember when i was a small boy, signs saying whites only at drinking fountains.
No blacks at community pools.
Etc etc.
Come a long way here in America folks.
Still a ways to go But we’ve. Eclipsed much of the rest of the world.
Quit your bitching and appreciate what we have.
Far too many places in this world still have slavery.
Bitch about those places,(saudi arabia).
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
White is a race, so by definition they are racists. A racist is a hater of people that have no control over the color of their skin. I don’t sit down and talk with racists
Truth and facts! That’s sooooo racist!
There is nothing new about the attitudes that people express about those that are “other” or “not my kind”. This reaction is actually wired into our brains by evolution and it has taken centuries and much horrific murderous history to get us to begin to control those hateful impulses with law and improved social behaviors. Modern mass media has amplified the voices of ignorance and hate but it can’t affect us if we refuse to give it power.
The secret to defusing the power of the hate mongers and racial inciters is to not react. By training yourself to not react to their words and block their triggering of your own conditioned hateful responses you rob them of their power to make you miserable. After a while your own reactions get more and more muted until they no longer occur.
When they realize that people no longer react to their every utterance they give up like children whose mother no longer reacts to their every tantrum.
I’m sixty and I’ve been hearing about race all of my life. The subject bores me beyond the observation that if you can’t make it in America, no matter your race, you are a loser.
You’re right - with all the taxes - I mean “offerings” - I pay every year, I should have remembered....
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