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Why Couldn’t They Put Out the Fire at Notre Dame Cathedral?
The Stream ^ | April 16, 2019 | joshua Gill

Posted on 04/16/2019 1:06:00 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

Firefighters stood helpless to stem the blaze Monday at Notre Dame Cathedral, likely because of Gothic engineering techniques that waterproofed the roof, consigning it to destruction.

The roof and spire of Notre Dame were all but doomed to burn once flames began to spread, possibly begun by a renovation accident, according to Ted Henderson, who studied archaeology at Dartmouth College. Henderson said a Gothic engineering technique used to waterproof the top of the cathedral involved placing a lead sheet roof over a wooden truss structure on top of the groin vault that served as the ceiling of the cathedral’s nave.

The wooden truss became highly flammable as it dried over hundreds of years, but was completely sealed from the outside by the lead sheets, and therefore impervious to firefighters’ efforts to douse the flames with water, Henderson said.

“So the wood catches on fire and it’s not actually exposed to the outside of the building anywhere,” Henderson told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

“In fact, the reason the roof is covered with lead is so water can’t get inside. It’s specifically fireproofed. So when the firemen, you know, arrive on the scene and they’re spraying [the] cathedral with water, it’s running off the sides of the lead roof and can’t access this void where the fire is actually spreading.”

As the fire grows hotter, the lead super-heats and melts, falling down onto the stone vault of the nave, which overloads the vault and causes it to collapse inward, creating an imbalance of weight throughout the entire structure and possibly leading to a total collapse, Henderson said.

A number of Gothic cathedrals have suffered near total collapses due to fire throughout history, including the Papal Basilica of St. Paul Outside the Walls, which burned in 1823 because a workman repairing the lead roof accidentally began a fire.

Notre Dame, however, has partially survived. The spire collapsed but the bell towers are visibly intact. The organ has survived, as well as the treasures, such as the crown of thorns relic, officials say.

The crown of thorns was kept in Constantinople during the Byzantium empire until Emperor Baldwin II offered it to King Louis IX of France in exchange for hefty financial support of his nearly bankrupt empire. The crown of thorns was considered at the time to be “the most valuable single object in the face of the earth,” according to Henderson.

The crown of thorns has been in near continuous royal possession since Constantine the Great, with the exception of the time between when it was stolen during the French Revolution and when it was returned.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Religion; Society
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1 posted on 04/16/2019 1:06:00 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Why Couldn’t They Put Out the Fire at Notre Dame Cathedral?

Primarily because the attic and spire didn't have a sprinkler system.

2 posted on 04/16/2019 1:07:55 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

If the lead sheeting was keeping the water from the Flames, why were so many of the flames shooting up through the roof?


3 posted on 04/16/2019 1:10:17 PM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I am quite surprised that no sprinkler system was ever put in place.

I bet the new one will have one.....................


4 posted on 04/16/2019 1:10:41 PM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

No drone mini firetrucks?


5 posted on 04/16/2019 1:10:48 PM PDT by 2banana (Were you)
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To: fso301

Totally moot argument. The original construction including the lead cover was not amenable to sprinkler installation, physically or economically. As the article states, the reason that efforts to put out the fire failed is the obsolete lead sheeting.


6 posted on 04/16/2019 1:14:43 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

logical assumptions, but I won’t be truly satisfied till an independent outside group of fire experts find the source and how it spread to the entire structure. Rebuilding is not a major concern, it’s only money and God knows the religious community will supply more than enough( well, we know who is still dancing in the streets, so don’t expect anything from the majority of Muslims} Wondering how safe is Mecca?


7 posted on 04/16/2019 1:14:49 PM PDT by shadeaud (Live in the path of God and leave justice to Him)
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To: bk1000

After the lead melted in some places.


8 posted on 04/16/2019 1:15:36 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: bk1000

From articles I have read today, once the fire became intense enough, the lead melted and revealed the flames underneath. The lead roof was to protect from burning embers being blown from a local fire outside the cathedral, not inside.


9 posted on 04/16/2019 1:21:13 PM PDT by Madam Theophilus (iI)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The crown of thorns has been in near continuous royal possession since Constantine the Great, with the exception of the time between when it was stolen during the French Revolution and when it was returned.

Is there a King of France today?

10 posted on 04/16/2019 1:21:14 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: bk1000

The lead melted, crashed inward and let the flames thru. It’s in the article.


11 posted on 04/16/2019 1:24:24 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Not this crap again. Conspiracy theorists did it with the twin towers, and now they will do it for this.
Fire is hot, things get hot, and things melt. Good grief!


12 posted on 04/16/2019 1:25:11 PM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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To: vpintheak

I’m still waiting to hear what ‘Structural Engineer’ Rosie O’Donnell has to say before I make my final decision. ;)

*SNORT*


13 posted on 04/16/2019 1:26:31 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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To: bk1000
"If the lead sheeting was keeping the water from the Flames, why were so many of the flames shooting up through the roof?"

Exactly right. Simply because they didn't want to put out the fire.

Islam dedicated the area around Notre Dame as Nakba place(Yasser Arafat created term) means: 'It remains bitter and continues to burn'

Authorities know Notre Dame couldn't be saved.

The Pyramids are the next major monument that will fall. We're witnessing a new Islamic Crusade with most peoples eyes shut.

14 posted on 04/16/2019 1:26:49 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
In short, when the structure is rebuilt 20 years from now with modern materials, expect not only more built-in sprinklers but also the roof material to use generally way less flammable materials even though it may "look" like the original. Materials such as hempcrete maybe used.
15 posted on 04/16/2019 1:27:43 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Pontiac

There is a pretender.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean,_Count_of_Paris


16 posted on 04/16/2019 1:31:03 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: bk1000

>> If the lead sheeting was keeping the water from the Flames, why were so many of the flames shooting up through the roof? <<

Because eventually, lead burns. Remember the bright yellow smoke? That’s lead on fire, burning as if it were plywood.


17 posted on 04/16/2019 1:31:38 PM PDT by dangus
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To: steve86
Totally moot argument. The original construction including the lead cover was not amenable to sprinkler installation, physically or economically. As the article states, the reason that efforts to put out the fire failed is the obsolete lead sheeting.My understanding is that the lead sheathing overlayed the roof decking.

A sprinkler system would have sprayed the support structure, cat walk and the bottom of the roof decking. Water would get through gaps in the decking and mitigate any fire between the top of the decking and overlaying lead sheathing.

18 posted on 04/16/2019 1:34:24 PM PDT by fso301
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To: RayChuang88

Where would they use hempcrete?


19 posted on 04/16/2019 1:37:38 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: RitchieAprile

Thanks.


20 posted on 04/16/2019 1:43:56 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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