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Dear Defenders of Healthy Criticism of Trump - Vanity
12/22/18 | Self

Posted on 12/22/2018 4:26:33 PM PST by Moe-Patrick

To those that argue “healthy criticism is necessary” and “do not follow blindly” - under normal circumstances I would agree BUT we are at war. And Trump supporters are all Trump has. For 3 years our enemies: DEM, Media and RINO have fought ruthlessly to reduce Trump support among the base (unsuccessfully). Why? Because the base is the only thing protecting Trump. My point is that verbalized criticism is used to weaken the support. Much like being at war and a few solders signaling to the enemy that his team is weak or wounded. It also means, do not lose faith or courage. Together we win, divided we fall.


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To: JayGalt

Trump’s AG has a much more critical job of reigning in the Comey/democrat supported witch hunt, which threatens the best president ever. Instead Sessions recused himself on day-1 on the job AND NEVER TOLD THE PRESIDENT OF HIS INTENTIONS. Sessions can rot in a smelly place as far as I am concerned.

There is no wall, illegals can just walk across the border, and seek asylum if get caught. Sessions has done nothing to stop it. As for drug & gang activity, that job belongs to local law enforcement and local prosecutors. Not the Attorney General of United States.


21 posted on 12/22/2018 6:13:04 PM PST by entropy12 (One million LEGAL immigrants/year is too many, without vetting for skills, Wealth or English skills.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Regarding your statement - Trump surrounds himself with those who differ in view.......

I agree and I wish it were different but I don’t think it is intentional. I think it happens because DC is full of serpents and good people will not step up because they will be ruined.

And your statement: We are the only conservatives that has his ear and should be the guidance for him......

I disagree with that limited view, we have his ear and he should have OUR ear. He is in a den of thieves and swinging knives while some of his supporters are criticizing the type of knife used and there is too much blood.

Finally, I appreciate that you considered my post honestly and took it seriously. That shows great character. No man is perfect including Trump but we are his team. He cannot succeed without us. We can win with a unified front.

As they say - Choose your battles to win the war - One of the battles is ‘public opinion’, dissention can be used to win that battle.


22 posted on 12/22/2018 6:24:19 PM PST by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.)
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To: entropy12

Many of the operations were interstate and required cooperation with other Nations. So they were within Sessions purview and required his involvement.

More than 2,300 pedophiles arrested across the US
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article.../More-2-300-pedophiles-arrested-country.htm...
Jun 13, 2018 - All 50 states participated in the operation (


23 posted on 12/22/2018 6:29:25 PM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: Moe-Patrick

You might want to consider that it was Conservative backlash that caused trump to say he wasn’t going to sign the CR without the wall money. That includes conservative talkers like Limbaugh and Ann Coulter. Their pressure got trumps attention and he realized that he could not slide into January with the “ we’ll just get the money elsewhere” routine., as he was planning to do.

So you can talk all you want about unity and not saying anything that you deem critical but the reality is that you have to keep the pressure on, everyone including pres trump. Last week he all but declared the wall “almost done” going so far as to call it a metal fence. Get my point? You should know by now that he has a habit of declaring victory And moving on whether it is a complete win or not.

Pressure is the only thing politicians respond to. (Other than wine, women, song and cash.)

calling out stuff doesn’t bother me a bit.


24 posted on 12/22/2018 6:31:03 PM PST by Okeydoker
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To: Moe-Patrick

My apologies....I was not clear in my statement #22.

Enemies will use dissension to win the battle of public opinion. We must win that battle.


25 posted on 12/22/2018 6:31:03 PM PST by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.)
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To: Okeydoker

In response to your statement(s):
“Politicians only respond to pressure” and “calling it out bothers you none”

Agreed politicians respond to pressure, the irony is that pressure is not being applied to those opposing Trump. Coulter shouts about Trump for attention and does little to pressure the enemies. Winning is not criticizing the leader, it’s defeating his (our) opponents that WE voted in. In other words, it is more effective to focus on the enemy not those on your team.

It seems that you see your role in this as a ‘supervisor’ as opposed to being part of the team. It also seems that you believe Trump does not care about results, only bragging.

Regardless, without Trump, we have no way of winning anything. And it may not bother you being ‘critical when needed’, but it isn’t about you. It is about this country and defeating those seeking to destroy it. DC is packed with thousands of evil-doers deeply rooted in greed, self satisfaction, and hatred for America. THAT is what needs supervision, ‘pressure’, exposure, and jail time.

Dissension amongst Trump’s base will be used by our enemies to win the battle of public opinion.


26 posted on 12/22/2018 7:00:50 PM PST by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.)
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To: JayGalt

What happened to the arrested pedos? Not one picture exists of any of them or the victims. Did they even go to jail??? Not a peep anywhere in any of the media or internet.


27 posted on 12/22/2018 7:01:29 PM PST by bigtoona (Make America Great Again! America First!)
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To: Moe-Patrick

Thank you....

Trumps in the fox hole in the thick of a storm and those with him aren’t always watching his back .....if he can’t count on our support now then I wouldn’t blame the man if he walked off the stage to the life he once knew so well.....but he won’t...and now they’re threatening his family.

I can’t imagine walking in his shoes for even 15 minutes.....and if he never acquires another thing for this nation I will forever be grateful for what he has said and done.


28 posted on 12/22/2018 7:11:13 PM PST by caww
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To: Guenevere
What they're doing is trying to terrorize us when they let their behavior get out of hand.

Liberals believe they have to school everybody else who doesn't agree with them and they certainly are willing to show their contempt to any who support Trump....

So don't be sad when this happens.....nothing comes against us except thru the hands of our heavenly father....including uncomfortable moments. This is how our faith is stretched....

29 posted on 12/22/2018 7:19:21 PM PST by caww
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To: bigtoona

The MSM has been blocking the stories because they don’t fit their agenda. The DOJ website does post convictions. These are a couple recent ones and a link to that department:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/thirty-six-defendants-guilty-their-roles-international-thai-sex-trafficking-organization

https://www.justice.gov/crt/human-trafficking-prosecution-unit-htpu


30 posted on 12/22/2018 7:23:01 PM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: Okeydoker

It’s easy to confuse things that happen sequentially as being cause and effect rather than unrelated. I don’t think Ann Coulter has much of an effect on anyone. This President has had this endgame in mind all along. You gravely mistake him if you think he behaves like a Politician and takes polls to see what to do.


31 posted on 12/22/2018 7:26:20 PM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: entropy12

Sessions is history so with the pace of changes going on currently we need to focus and or be moving forward to see what the next steps might be in the current battles and those anticipated ahead.


32 posted on 12/22/2018 7:31:41 PM PST by caww
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To: JayGalt

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5839321/More-2-300-pedophiles-arrested-country.html

Better version of link


33 posted on 12/22/2018 7:34:45 PM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: JayGalt

.....”I think making an effort ‘to wait’ for all the facts instead of shooting from the hips and giving him some trust that he is doing the best he can would be a start”.....

The great thing about waiting is one can use the time to consider the next moves or the options which might reveal themselves....and just because something might not be a no go one thing Trump has shown us is he ‘revisits’ what he wants...he doesn’t just let it drop. Frankly he told us this when he was running.......


34 posted on 12/22/2018 7:37:25 PM PST by caww
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To: stevem

35 posted on 12/22/2018 7:41:37 PM PST by caww
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To: FightThoughtControl

He’s well proven he fights for us.

He knows what his responsibilities are to this country and it’s people....better he also knows what is possible to get done, and what it’s going to take to get a whole lot done.....

How would we work knowing there are people going after your wife, insulting her, degrading her...and your family every day. I don’t know many who could withstand the onslaught the Trumps are going through. Even the International community recognizes the brutality against Trump and his family.


36 posted on 12/22/2018 7:51:48 PM PST by caww
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To: JayGalt

If you don’t think Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, etc and the others had no influence there is no point in further discussion. If you can’t tell when trump starts to declare victory and changes his mind nothing I say is going to make you more perceptive.


37 posted on 12/22/2018 8:12:27 PM PST by Okeydoker
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To: Moe-Patrick

Actually, you seem to be the one role playing supervisor. It was not me that decided to post a vanity telling everyone on the board not to express any negativity toward pres trump. Or did I read this wrong?

Tell you what, you go about your business expressing your opinions about what other people should do and I will go about my business deciding what I will do. How does that sound?


38 posted on 12/22/2018 8:16:26 PM PST by Okeydoker
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To: Moe-Patrick

There is a BIG difference between blind, unconditional support versus support.

One lib nut in our family actually said (during the usurptive reign of zero), “ I serve at the pleasure of the President.”

Who says that?? Liberal wackos who are utterly blinded by the socialist manifesto, thus dangerous Americans.

Those who utter CONSTRUCTIVE criticism against a sitting POTUS should not be shut down. There is a big difference.


39 posted on 12/22/2018 8:26:35 PM PST by Reddy (B. O. stinks)
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To: Okeydoker

My intent is not to supervise.......my intent was to explain the war we are in and various battles. My goal is to defeat DC and not help the enemy.

Bottom line: I presume that the enemy likes your stance (criticism) and hates my stance (supportive). Only one of us is helping the enemy.

It’s up to you which side you fight for, not my choice or business as you stated earlier.


40 posted on 12/22/2018 8:34:51 PM PST by Moe-Patrick (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.)
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