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The Pilgrims May Not Be Who You Think They Were: An Interview with Jay Milbrandt
Bible Gateway Blog ^ | November 2, 2017 | Jonathan Petersen

Posted on 11/18/2018 5:32:36 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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Happy Thanksgiving!
1 posted on 11/18/2018 5:32:36 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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PING!


2 posted on 11/18/2018 5:33:07 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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Highly recommend:


3 posted on 11/18/2018 5:40:38 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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“There was no “First Thanksgiving,” as we want to believe it happened...”

Actually, there was a first Thanksgiving. The Puritans were starving because of imposed socialism and when they gave that up and went into individual farming, they had a bumper crop and celebrated it with a large cook out.


4 posted on 11/18/2018 5:45:06 PM PST by odawg
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The mystique of the first "Thanksgiving" of the Pilgrims is just one of many historical events that bear little or no resemblance to actual event. It's just the way it is. People like their history in neat little packages.

It's like the common scene of Jesus being born in a manger with three Wise Men immediately coming into the birth scene bearing gifts and riding camels after following a star in the sky. It likely didn't happen exactly as neatly as that. But these are the images conveyed to us over the centuries. And they end up sticking.


5 posted on 11/18/2018 5:53:54 PM PST by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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Did their guests bring buckets of KFC?


6 posted on 11/18/2018 5:55:13 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Pilgram Lions, playing a crude form of football, lost to the Redskins that year.


7 posted on 11/18/2018 6:02:52 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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bump


8 posted on 11/18/2018 6:03:41 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("The word 'racist' is used to describe 'every Republican that's winning'" --Donald Trump)
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It's like the common scene of Jesus being born in a manger with three Wise Men immediately coming into the birth scene bearing gifts and riding camels after following a star in the sky. It likely didn't happen exactly as neatly as that. But these are the images conveyed to us over the centuries. And they end up sticking.


9 posted on 11/18/2018 6:17:18 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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I had to look for a couple of minutes to figure it out myself!


10 posted on 11/18/2018 6:22:37 PM PST by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving to you, too.

That was a nice article.


11 posted on 11/18/2018 6:26:32 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Puritans escaped persecution in England. Only to do the very same thing here they escaped from.

My ancestors from England. 3 of them signed the death warrant for King Charles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWoL0oGXHUM

Abraham Temple came to the new world and landed at Salem MA 1635-36. He had been financed by William Finnese (SIC) who wanted to establish a title in the Conn area and become lord of the area. Abraham ducked out and stayed in Salem, and then moved to Concord where his son, Richard, had a sawmill on Spensors brook. That was the start of the family line in the forest products history in the USA.


12 posted on 11/18/2018 6:39:41 PM PST by crz
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....I had to look for a couple of minutes to figure it out myself!

Yoda, you seek Yoda


13 posted on 11/18/2018 6:40:08 PM PST by HangnJudge
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They were intending to make landfall in New York. The reason they put ashore at Plymouth Rock was because they'd run out of beer.



Seriously.

14 posted on 11/18/2018 6:49:46 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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It was particularly helpful to find the Geneva Bible translation for this project—it’s no longer a common translation to find!

The 1599 Geneva has been recently released. i use it as my main English Bible. The study notes are exceedingly helpful. It was reproduced by Tolle Lege Press, and at a quite reasonable price.

My wife and i both have a copy and use it. It was less than $60.

The only changes have been that the spelling and certain changes (such as the apostrophe to indicate possession) have been moderenized. However, the text is original 1599 Geneva.

15 posted on 11/18/2018 7:44:05 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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The images might be tidy and neat and unable to convey the messy realities. Yes, the tidy images are the best on planet earth. No images in Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. are as powerful as Thanksgiving Pilgrims and Christmas shepherds.

“They also left a lasting legacy through the separation of church and state.” Lame.

They left a lasting legacy of the hierarchy with church and state where the state’s politicians assist the church leaders who prepare society for the Lord. Get with the program. Yes, Bible Gateway is awesome.


16 posted on 11/18/2018 9:50:27 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: Paal Gulli

3 years later my ancestors came on the New Netherland to New York,,,most of the passengers were Walloons/Huguenots and had known the Pilgrims at the same church in Leyden, Holland where they had fled from France...


17 posted on 11/18/2018 10:27:10 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Paal Gulli

BTW there were at least 4 Huguenots on the Mayflower...


18 posted on 11/18/2018 10:28:08 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Jamestown was up and running for a decade before these glory hog Pilgrims stopped for a beer run at Plymouth Rock.


19 posted on 11/18/2018 10:31:08 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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Thanks Tolerance Sucks Rocks.

20 posted on 11/18/2018 10:39:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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