Thanks fieldmarshaldj. One of *those* topics, although the topic article is a POS.
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Posted on 09/28/2018 9:27:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Ancient ruins found in the Israeli wilderness could solve the biblical mystery of the Exodus, archaeologists claim.
According to the Bible, Moses liberated the Israelites from slavery in Egypt and led them through the wilderness of Sinai, before they crossed the River Jordan into the promised land of Canaan.
Yet no historical basis for the legend exists, and experts generally agree the Israelites were in fact native to Canaan - an ancient region covering modern day Israel.
However, scientists are now analysing whether ruins near the River Jordan are proof of a nomadic Israelite people crossing into the ancient land thousands of years ago.
They suggest the small settlement was used by the Israelites during their journey from Egypt, which biblical researchers believe occurred in the 13th Century BC.
If correct, the find would constitute the first scientific evidence of the biblical account....
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Yes.
They should check the ruins in NW Saudi Arabia.
What a weird question. Exodus is Scripture. Archeology and History always catch up with Scripture, not the other way around.
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I don’t need ruins to support my faith.
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There is plenty of evidence already. Canaanite type houses in the region of Egypt where the bible says the Israelites were (these have different architecture than the egyptian houses from that era). There is an administrative building with twelve pillars. There was a burial chamber with a bust of a man with what appears to be a multicoloured coat only the body was missing (remember that Hebrews says Joseph gave instructions for his body to be taken when the Israelites left Egypt). The area where they crossed has some sand on the shore that is hardened like glass (probably by the heat from the pillar of fire). Mount Sinai was located in Arabia. There is an altar near the base with pictures of a bull inscribed. The remains of the twelve marble pillars are there. The top of the mountain looks burned compared to the other mountains in the area. There is a strangely shaped rock some distance from there that looks to have been split (but not shattered) right down the middle. All around the rock is clear evidence of strong water erosion smoothing out the rocks below.
They found Jericho, which was indeed a walled city and it was collapsed apart from one small section. There have been altars from that time found in Israel. In short, there is tons of evidence, but the secular archaeologists don’t want to change their theories and admit they got it wrong. Part of the problem is the timeframe for the exodus needs revising, but there is evidence the existing timeline is wrong. I recommend anyone who can watch the film “Patterns of Evidence: The Exodus”. Also watch this documentary on youtube about Mount Sinai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7NgmKl3Cq4
https://patternsofevidence.com/
Finally if you have the time Don Patton did a two part series about archeological finds that confirm events in the Old and New Testaments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muBJf83WsGY
Watch them and be blessed folks.
Yes. I no longer care much about this. No amount of validation will be enough for inveterate skeptics.
I actually realized this at age ten - when I learned that the Big Reason to discredit the Bible long ago was the obviously imaginary Hittite Empire.
Then they discovered its capital, Hattushah, in (I think) 1906. Oops.
On to the next Big Reason to discredit the Bible...
No kidding - that's exactly what the Bible says. Where do they think Jacob's family (his 12 sons) came from?
Before that, Jacob's grandfather (Abraham) came from Iraq.
So, from Iraq - to (present-day) Israel - to Egypt - back to Israel.
These "experts" ever actually read the Bible?
Google “sinai inscriptions”, and then look for “images”.
The slaves in the Sinai mines used to write graffiti — in Hebrew.
They make reference to various biblical figures; and one has (paraphrased), “We’re still slaves, but Moses has startled Egypt.”
” In short, there is tons of evidence, but the secular archaeologists don’t want to change their theories and admit they got it wrong. “
It is called consensus thinking. It affects the entire ‘history’ put together in the 19th Century about the time lines from Sumeria, to the Old Kingdom Egypt, to the history of the Jewish people.
Most of the dating is clearly disputable and far older that consensus history claims.
Much of the foundation dating rests on Old Kingdom Egypt Kings Lists, the major one being a 19th Century forgery bought in a bazar; while it is a known forgery, it is still used to date the Kings. The Palermo Stone which is real, lists Kings on the first row (the oldest) which are completely unknown, and many of the others who are known are missing, and so on.
Worse still, bio-thermoluminescence dating (the date that a stone was placed) of the Menkaure pyramid (the newest) is older than the consensus date of the Great Pyramid, the oldest. Bio-thermoluminescence dating is now illegal, unless done in Egypt which does not have the equipment to do the tests.
Its an uphill battle with many reputations and a lot of money riding on continuing consensus thinking. Facts do not matter apparently, just reputations and power (that sounds vaguely familiar, somehow).
There is the hypothesis that Jabal Lawz in Saudi Arabia is the true Mount Sinai. There is much archaeological evidence there; however, the Saudi Arabian military has blocked any visit to the site. For an interesting overview of Lawz see The Gold of Exodus by Howard Blum.
I will look it up, thanks.
I agree on the consensus thinking. There are always going to be people whose whole careers are built around certain theories, and have much to lose if the theory is discarded. The thing with the timing of the exodus is very interesting to me. An agnostic archaeologist called David Rohl has been looking at this issue for a while.
He claims that part of the confusion is concerning who was the Pharaoh at the time of the exodus. The guy who used the Rosetta stone to enable translation of hieroglyphs apparently mixed up two similar sounding Pharaoh’s. I think the names were Shishak and Shoshenk in the Egyptian. One of them was Ramases and the other I can’t remember. Anyhows, if you or anyone else is interested in the revision of the timeline of the exodus, look up David Rohl or watch Patterns of Evidence.
And if you ae interested in a fuller description of the enormous dating problems and more on consensus thinking read Robert Temple’s “Egyptian Dawn” and “the Sphinx Mystery” (both have websites - further Temple has not published in 8 years, despite several manuscripts which are still unpublished). Temple visited and photographed all the sites he worked at; he includes numerous previously unpublished or long forgotten photos and reports from travelers (tourists) going back to the 17th Century as well as many articles translated for the first time from German and French.
One site, the Sphinx Temple is closed to tourists and the images unique.
Thanks fieldmarshaldj. One of *those* topics, although the topic article is a POS.
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Thanks fieldmarshaldj. One of *those* topics, although the topic article is a POS.
I read a book about a mountain in Jordan
that apparently is the actual Mount Sinai where Moses received the ten commandments.
It’s NOT the current one named Mt. Sinai.
It’s off limits as its a Jordanian military base and the author had to sneak in.
—— Do these ruins prove the Biblical story of Exodus? ——
No
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