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Who Would Have the Advantage in a US Civil War?
IWB ^ | Daniel Carter

Posted on 07/29/2018 2:01:47 AM PDT by davikkm

The escalation of hostility and violence in the United States is becoming undeniable. Over the past couple years alone, there have been politicians calling for increased antagonism toward Trump and his supporters, protesters (sometimes violently) confronting the police and ICE, violent clashes on the streets between Antifa and patriot groups, and many other instances that signify dark times ahead for the US. Almost one third of the nation believes a civil war is imminent. If this worst-case scenario becomes reality, who would have the upper hand?

Many on the right side of the political spectrum will hastily assume that they have the advantage because they have more guns. Republicans absolutely do own more guns, but many Democrats and Independents own guns as well. Will this advantage be enough to definitively win a war? It is hard to say.

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To: tired&retired

Give me several million hunters with the equivalent of sniper rifles (typical deer rifles) who know the terrain and have the support of the local people any day over a trained military. Time is on the side of the hunter who would be defending their own home territory.


Perhaps in the WWII era.

the military will fight with precision bombs and drones just like in the Middle East.


21 posted on 07/29/2018 3:47:02 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

yeah

using muskets against night googles, drones and precision bombs.


22 posted on 07/29/2018 3:55:33 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: davikkm

Most leftists live in big cities. Cut off their water supply and you will have them surrendering within days. Cut off their food supply and it will take longer but the effect on their moral would be greater.

Food can be dropped in by planes though so cutting off the water would be the most effective way.

Of course then the problem will be what to do with them.


23 posted on 07/29/2018 3:56:30 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: Jim Noble

Problem is the actual size of our military. Some 475,000 in the Army of which the bulk are support people, not front line soldiers. Some 100,000 Marines , and while the attitude is ‘every Marine is a shooter’ the reality is there are still a significant portion that is support. Not near enough people in the active military to put down a revolt. So you would have to call up the reserves, and that becomes highly problematic. Who would they fight fo4, the government that has become insulated from mainstream America, or would they form up units and fight against the government and it’s supporters.


24 posted on 07/29/2018 4:02:05 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: mabarker1

Let me just say that if something happens to Trump,Chuckie,Durbin,Pelosie,Ryan and others will have to move to another country. They will top the list of vermon .


25 posted on 07/29/2018 4:02:38 AM PDT by spincaster ( AM A)
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To: spincaster

And be swinging at the end of the Ropes!


26 posted on 07/29/2018 4:04:10 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Chickensoup
If the US land forces fight on the side of the President, he will prevail. If they fight on the side of a hostile Congress and judiciary, he will lose. Who they support, and the shape of the crisis which determines that, is history yet to be written. As far as who the troops support, that really doesn't matter. Here's a scenario:

You are a USMC captain. Your battalion has deployed to Fort Meade because of a vague "terrorist threat", your mission is to protect the capital.

At 2 am you gat a call from your major that the White House is under attack by terrorists (almost true), that the President and Vice President are missing (true), that terrorists dressed as US forces are moving through Arlington VA (false).

You are ordered to deploy your rifle company to M and 34th in Georgetown and kill anything that moves on the Key Bridge, which intel says is the route hostile forces plan to use to enter the capital.

The internet is down. TV and radio stations are off the air.

Is there ANY chance you will not move out and start shooting at the troops from Fort McNair trying to cross the Key Bridge and rescue the President?

27 posted on 07/29/2018 4:04:49 AM PDT by Jim Noble (p)
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To: Renegade
Don't forget oil and gas, which is overwhelmingly produced in red states like Texas, North Dakota and Oklahoma. Let's see how the leftists survive with no oil or gas.
28 posted on 07/29/2018 4:08:42 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: tired&retired

Cut off the arugula and mustache wax and the cities will crumble


29 posted on 07/29/2018 4:08:49 AM PDT by Bucky14 (And I would have gotten away with it too, if not for you meddling kids!)
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To: Jim Noble
That is the problem, not the skinny jeans brigade.

The Americans that maintain & supply the blood of this country -food, water, power - are not liberals and could wage war by Not moving a finger.

30 posted on 07/29/2018 4:10:34 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: davikkm

If things get ugly, the Donks could tool up very quickly. A couple of hours and a few thousand dollars at Cabelas (maybe more), and anybody can be very well armed.


31 posted on 07/29/2018 4:12:46 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Chickensoup
How many of us are engineers, mechanics, scientists, chemists?

I wouldn't drop my expertise/skills just to pick up that musket.

32 posted on 07/29/2018 4:15:23 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: davikkm

No one.

The first Civil War was a sheer stroke of luck in terms of the geographic position of either side. People in the north could go about their normal lives for the most part.

Another one will not be that way.

Anyone acting cocky had better realize that the easy life you enjoy now will come to an end for a real long time if one ever happened.


33 posted on 07/29/2018 4:18:40 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: davikkm

It all depends on how many people show up on either side.


34 posted on 07/29/2018 4:21:00 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If I knew when I was going to need my gun, I wouldn't need my gun.)
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To: Haiku Guy

“If things get ugly, the Donks could tool up very quickly. A couple of hours and a few thousand dollars at Cabelas (maybe more), and anybody can be very well armed.”

God only knows why people here act like the left somehow can’t shoot a gun too.

Doesn’t take that damn long to learn how to use one.


35 posted on 07/29/2018 4:23:16 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: mad_as_he$$

How many rifle carrying Americans could a C-130 gunship kill in an hour?


36 posted on 07/29/2018 4:23:37 AM PDT by Jim Noble (p)
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To: spincaster

Nothing should happen to Trump

A cast of hundreds should move to another country anyhow.


37 posted on 07/29/2018 4:23:37 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Sounds exactly like the Revolutionary War.

Exactly - except the opposing army is not at the end of a 4000 mile supply chain fed by wooden sailing ships that cross the North Atlantic in winter.

If the US land forces are on the side of the President, he will win. If they are on the side of a hostile Congress and judiciary, he will lose.

How many NRA members are on which side is irrelevant.

38 posted on 07/29/2018 4:25:09 AM PDT by Jim Noble (p)
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To: Jim Noble
One of the lessons from the sandbox wars is that urban guerrilla warfare is very costly to the assaulting force. Three guys can tie up a company for most of a morning. Properly conducted counter attacks will render the assault force ineffective in many cases.
39 posted on 07/29/2018 4:26:08 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If I knew when I was going to need my gun, I wouldn't need my gun.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Lean-Right

...”But bunches of guys who are good with rifles are not an army. We would not last five minutes against a USMC rifle company.”
Explain Afghanistan to me then. Or Iraq. Or Vietnam...

Or, on the road back to Concord from Lexington, through Valley Forge, all the way to Yorktown.


40 posted on 07/29/2018 4:40:21 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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