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How Europeans Evolved White Skin
Science Magazine ^ | 02/15/2018 | Ann Gibbons

Posted on 02/15/2018 9:21:23 PM PST by Crucial

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To: AnotherUnixGeek
OH?

Than what about the human remains found in China, a few years ago that are older than any of those found in Africa?

61 posted on 02/15/2018 11:48:40 PM PST by nopardons
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To: zeestephen; Theoria
Some FReepers could have missed the story with that picture. (That early Britons were dark-skinned).

Since there is clear evidence that Humans migrated out of Africa at least 100,000 years ago (and possibly 180,000 years ago), that theory has never made sense to me, either.

Ever notice that every new discovery pushes back the timeline?

Also, there is significant evidence that Neanderthals evolved outside of Africa, and there is no question that almost all modern European and Asian humans have some Neanderthal DNA.

Neanderthals lived outside of Africa, but I wouldn't necessarily say evolved.

62 posted on 02/15/2018 11:50:19 PM PST by Does so (Text a message mentioning the Florida town of Islamorada--funny notification by ear...)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
You're dead on right, re the export of VD, from the "NEW WORLD" to the "OLD WORLD"!

But that info has been well known for far longer than the 1980s. I remember hearing about it in the 1960s and it probably wasn't "new" info back then.

63 posted on 02/15/2018 11:54:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC

Considering the fact that members of my extended family ARE Afrikaners ( the language is spelled with 2 As...not the people!),still living in RSA, I saw it right away! :-)


64 posted on 02/15/2018 11:57:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: RegulatorCountry

and they were good at problem solving.

Which they don’t teach anymore.


65 posted on 02/16/2018 12:12:33 AM PST by missthethunder
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To: Crucial

All this article does is remind me that there is no more powerful force in the world than race hatred.

And it’s mostly directed against whites, because when you take away our achievements, there’s not much civilization left.


66 posted on 02/16/2018 12:18:12 AM PST by Nothingburger
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To: RegulatorCountry; missthethunder

“Genetic bottlenecks do tend to weed out the stupid”

If true, then Muslims wouldn’t be so numerous.
Don’t forget the other very successful strategy to spread stupid genes : multiply like rabbits.
One of the (highly decried by leftists) theme of the Bell Curve is that low IQ people tend to have higher fertility rates : blacks women produce more twins, mature more precociously, ovulate more often... than whites who do more than Asians. Blacks prefer to breed more instead of whites who prefer to nurture more, this is an indeniable fact, even more now in the age the welfare society and food stamps.

The Bell curve even warned that a society in which intelligent women prefer to be successful businesswomen instead of mothers and where “welfare queens” have many offsprings can not end well. The expression “demography is destiny” seems totally prophetic to me.


67 posted on 02/16/2018 12:47:17 AM PST by miniTAX (a)
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To: miniTAX

Maybe I should have made a distinction between genetic bottlenecks imposed externally due to natural disaster, ice age or war, as opposed to genetic bottlenecks imposed by deliberately inbreeding when there is no external pressure making this behavior necessary.


68 posted on 02/16/2018 12:53:25 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Does so
Re: Neanderthals lived outside of Africa, but I wouldn't necessarily say evolved.

Possibly.

Every source I have read on the subject says Neanderthal “emerged” from Africa, but there seems to be scant fossil and DNA evidence to back that up.

As far as I know, no Neanderthal fossils have ever been found in sub-Saharan Africa, and only a few tribes in that region carry Neanderthal DNA.

I have read that Neanderthal fossils have been found in North Africa, but I've never seen them dated.

In sharp contrast, the fossil and DNA record of Neanderthals in Asia and Europe is very large.

From my own reading, I think a good case can be made that Neanderthal evolved from Homo Erectus in southwest Asia about 500,000 years ago, and that all the Neanderthal fossils and DNA in Africa arrived from the outside.

69 posted on 02/16/2018 1:01:22 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: Crucial; SunkenCiv; freedomjusticeruleoflaw; Fungi; WMarshal; RegulatorCountry; nopardons; PGR88; ..

I too have been fascinated by genetics since college. In 1959 I was taught that we all have 8 genes for color. If a pure white person and a pure black person mate, they will have a brown child with 4 white and 4 black genes. However if two people with that combination mate they could have anywhere from an 8 gene white child to an 8 gene black child, or any combination in between. However, the majority of the children would have a 4/4 or 5/3-3/5 distribution. The recent science of epigenetics has found that some environmental influences, like poor nutrition, of a grandparent can influence the well being of a grandchild.

After decades of observation I have concluded there are two main types of people, settlers/farmers and nomads/travelers. I also call them domesticated or wild types. I have always been attracted to the wild types.
America was mostly settled by nomad/wild types. In the families of Europe, only some family members were of the traveling disposition. The settling type usually stayed home unless conditions were very bad. In addition transportation by England of prisoners of war (Scotch and Irish) and political/religious rebellions was practiced. Also many felons and debtors were transported, sold, or indentured. One observer after commenting on how many fair and refined looking women he had seen in America was told the transportation of many “public women” to America was the reason. Thus many of these involuntarily transported might not have been of the nomad type. As the east coast became urban and settled, the more restless continued to move west which may explain some of the current regional political differences. When they got to California, they either settled down there, or if the nomad type went off to Alaska after gold, or back into the Rocky Mountains. These are extremely long and detailed articles on the subject. They include differentiating of Indenture, Transportation, and Slavery:

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Journals/AHR/2/1/British_Convicts_Shipped_to_American_Colonies*.html

https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/Convict_Labor_During_the_Colonial_Period

There are many factors that can affect regional IQ. Gengis Kahn’s murder of millions in Central Asia and parts of the Middle East still has lingering effects on their populations. The sequestering of women and arranged cousin or uncle marriages cannot be doing IQ’s any favors. The theft of 20 million Africans by slavers cannot have done that continent any good. I too have spent some time analyzing my family. One of my sons was severely dyslexic, but very charming. One day when he was 13, 5 girls phoned home while he was not home. When he arrived, I asked if he was dating all these girls. “Oh no, just two, the others I’m holding in reserve if things don’t work out.” A few years later when he dropped out of high school and was depressed, I told him that with his people skills he could do OK, because he could always get someone (probably a woman) to do his paper work for him. He married a college graduate and tells me one of his sons is a “social genius.” My brother and husband were also dyslexic, but very effective socially. My brother and son are fair haired and my husband a redhead. My other brother, son, and myself are dark haired and don’t have reading problems. As I said genetics is fascinating.


70 posted on 02/16/2018 1:03:01 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Crucial; All

Are you saying that the Aryan Nation and KKK types have been blackmailed by the Left into hating blacks?


71 posted on 02/16/2018 1:07:15 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: RegulatorCountry; nopardons; SunkenCiv; All

Let’s hear it for heterosis, and I don’t mean halitosis. ;-) See below for technical details.

http://www.pnas.org/content/103/35/12957.full


72 posted on 02/16/2018 1:14:01 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: miniTAX; All

Don’t forget that Muslims follow a religion that requires praying 5 times a day after washing their hands. This religion also has many rules for living, including that you use your left hand to wipe your butt, and your right hand to dip into the communal food tray. With these two very basic sanitation life rules, their population soon outstripped that of the people they conquered, and will continue to do so in underdeveloped areas of the world.


73 posted on 02/16/2018 1:27:23 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

All indentured servants were transported but not all who were transported were indentured servants. Some were convicts and some were politically inconvenient to the powers that be of the time. Many indentured themselves willingly, known as apprenticing out. There were also skilled tradesmen who were essentially recruited that show up as having been transported bcause the cost of their transport across the Atlantic was paid by their future patrons/masters/employers. It’s more complicated than is generally understood.


74 posted on 02/16/2018 1:30:03 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Crucial

That is the theory that I remember hearing many years ago and, to me, makes the most sense.


75 posted on 02/16/2018 1:32:41 AM PST by sneakers (It's not the democraTIC party! It's the demoCRAT party!)
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To: zeestephen
I'd always assumed that Neanderthals had migrated out of Africa; and as LiveScience.com states:

"Like other humans, Neanderthals originated in Africa but migrated to Eurasia long before other humans did. Neanderthals lived across Eurasia, as far north and west as the Britain, through part of the Middle East, to Uzbekistan."https://www.livescience.com/28036-neanderthals-facts-about-our-extinct-human-relatives.html

All very interesting, but the fossil record is still too sketchy.

76 posted on 02/16/2018 2:05:55 AM PST by Does so (Text a message mentioning the Florida town of Islamorada--funny notification by ear...)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

But if I similarly point out that every race has a different average IQ? RACIST!

___

If you say whites don’t have the highest IQ, Asians do, most are okay with that just as long as youre knocking whites.


77 posted on 02/16/2018 2:10:10 AM PST by boycott
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To: libh8er

It’s PC nonsense for giving Africa credit for something

Credit for something other than AIDS, Ebola, and hurricanes?


78 posted on 02/16/2018 2:21:37 AM PST by boycott
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To: gleeaikin

I saved the articles.
Very interesting to me.


79 posted on 02/16/2018 2:24:02 AM PST by missthethunder
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To: RegulatorCountry

I’m at a loss to name an institution not corrupted by the Left. From education, Law, government, mainstream Protestant Churches, the Catholic Church, our military . . . and in recent years, science, the Left soils EVERYTHING it touches.

No republic can long endure this state of affairs.


80 posted on 02/16/2018 2:46:27 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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