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Putin: Communist ideology similar to Christianity, Lenin’s body like saintly relics
Russia Today ^ | January 14, 2018

Posted on 01/14/2018 4:08:06 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose

Maybe I’ll say something that someone might dislike, but that’s the way I see it,” Putin said in an interview for the documentary Valaam, an excerpt of which was broadcast on Russia 1. “First of all, faith has always accompanied us, becoming stronger every time our country, our people, have been through hard times.

“There were those years of militant atheism when priests were eradicated, churches destroyed, but at the same time a new religion was being created. Communist ideology is very similar to Christianity, in fact: freedom, equality, brotherhood, justice – everything is laid out in the Holy Scripture, it’s all there. And the code of the builder of communism? This is sublimation, it’s basically just an excerpt from the Bible, nothing new was invented.”

Putin went further by comparing the Communists’ attitude to the Bolshevik leader Lenin to the veneration of saints in Christianity. “Look, Lenin was put in a mausoleum. How is this different from the relics of saints for Orthodox Christians and just for Christians? When they say that there’s no such tradition in Christianity, well, how come, go to Athos and take a look, there are relics of the saints there, and we have holy relics here,” Putin concluded.

After Lenin died in 1924, his body was embalmed and put on display in a mausoleum in Red Square, Moscow.

Putin’s words were music to the ears of Communist Party members. “I think these words of the president very effectively and reasonably smooth out the acute angles around the theme of the mausoleum,” Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Ivan Melnikov said...

Earlier this year, Gennadiy Zyuganov, the head of the Russian Communist Party, said Putin had promised him that as long as he remains president, Lenin’s body would remain in the mausoleum in Red Square.

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TOPICS: History; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: agitprop; china; communism; communists; lenin; northkorea; putin; russia; saints; troll; valaam; vladtheimploder
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To: GoldenState_Rose

No it isn’t, Putin. Communism is materialistic. Jesus is the center of Christianity and His Kingdom is not of this world.


61 posted on 01/14/2018 5:42:16 PM PST by grimalkin (You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible. - T. Sowell)
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To: Olog-hai

Decades ago early in my Christian walk I had read Richard Wurmbrand’s book “Was Karl Marx a Satanist”.


62 posted on 01/14/2018 6:01:06 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: HLPhat

Catholics in particular have relics.


63 posted on 01/14/2018 6:04:22 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: GoldenState_Rose

misquoted - hilarious that anyone would fall for this deepstate fake news


64 posted on 01/14/2018 6:05:24 PM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp as)
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To: GoldenState_Rose
Music to the ears of Communists....

And I'd add... the Pope is probably ecstatic.

65 posted on 01/14/2018 6:05:28 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: GoldenState_Rose
Communist ideology is very similar to Christianity, in fact: freedom, equality, brotherhood, justice – everything is laid out in the Holy Scripture, it’s all there.

Historian Hillaire Beloc called Communism a great perversion and heresy of Christianity.

66 posted on 01/14/2018 6:26:43 PM PST by PGR88
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Ah yes, the great hero and savior of “western civilization,” with his support of North Korea, China, Iran, Cuba, and Venezuela!


67 posted on 01/14/2018 6:27:20 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: vooch

The English translation of his interview is from “Russia Today” (RT) - funded by the Kremlin and accused by US Congress for being a foreign agent.


68 posted on 01/14/2018 6:28:22 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: vooch

Why would Rossiya Segodnya misquote its owner?


69 posted on 01/14/2018 6:30:16 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: buwaya
Satanism in its iconography and ceremonial and its philosophy/theology, is a deliberate inverse of, especially, Catholicism. Catholicism just has all the cool stuff that they want the opposite of, everything worth perverting.

I don’t think I have ever heard of “Protestant” Satanists.

Catholics have "Satanists." Protestants have "Luciferians."

70 posted on 01/14/2018 6:32:58 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Olog-hai
Communism, remember, has declared itself opposed to all religion.

It did once. However, if it still maintains any hostility whatsoever to islam, pre-literate "indigenous" shamanisms, Black Fundamentalist Protestantism, or Hispanic neo-medieval folk Catholicism, it hides such opposition pretty well.

71 posted on 01/14/2018 6:36:00 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: buwaya
An old, very nerdy conservative slogan was “Don’t immanentize the eschaton”, that is, dont try to make heaven on earth. Because that was the root of the communist idea.

That's an old, nerdy, Catholic conservative slogan. Many Fundamentalist Protestants, J-- Witnesses, Orthodox Jews, etc., believe the "end of history" is a literal earthly (not a metaphorical) Kingdom of G-d. If this messianic ideal is the root of Communism, then surely Jerry Falwell, Hal Lindsay, and their fellows are the Ultimate Communists.

Catholics never tire of reminding us that "G-d created matter, too" (they do this to defend the use of images, relics, etc.). Yet they insist that all G-d created matter will be ultimately annihilated.

The true root of the Communist ideal (and every other false ideal ever conceived) is the idea of an independent objective moral order that exists apart from G-d. This idea is just as wrong in a harmless whimsical classicist as it is in a mass murderer.

Independent morality is the curse of the human race.

72 posted on 01/14/2018 6:45:00 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Look at Xinjiang in China. Where communism dominates, it’s just as hard on Islam as any other religion.


73 posted on 01/14/2018 6:47:35 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s nothing new under the Aten.


74 posted on 01/14/2018 6:51:01 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: buwaya

“Your Protestant lot split from us just around 450 years ago.”

Catholicism split from Christianity about 1,800 years ago.

L


75 posted on 01/14/2018 6:55:09 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Olog-hai
Look at Xinjiang in China. Where communism dominates, it’s just as hard on Islam as any other religion.

What's true in China is not necessarily true for Libya, Iran, Algeria, Somalia (under Siad Barre), Egypt (under Nasser), Indonesia (under Sukarno), or any number of regimes that combined Communism and islam into a single entity--not to mention the Communist-created and Communist-supported PLO.

Of course regnant Communism, especially in "non-western" countries, doesn't include the self-hatred it does in the "western" context. And I was specifically thinking of our decadent "western" Communists, not the ones that, having a country to run, dispense with the hippie nonsense they spouted to come to power.

76 posted on 01/14/2018 7:01:24 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

On 24 November 1917, weeks after the October revolution, the Bolsheviks issued an appeal to ‘All the Muslim Workers of Russia and the East’.[4] Lenin declared;

Muslims of Russia…all you whose mosques and prayer houses have been destroyed, whose beliefs and customs have been trampled upon by the tsars and oppressors of Russia: your beliefs and practices, your national and cultural institutions are forever free and inviolate. Know that your rights, like those of all the peoples of Russia, are under the mighty protection of the revolution.[5]


77 posted on 01/14/2018 7:05:09 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: GoldenState_Rose

snippets - just like what deep state does to Trump

don’t fall for it


78 posted on 01/14/2018 7:07:21 PM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp as)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Actually, Nasser openly declared himself to be both nationalist and socialist. That is Nazism. Vast majority of other Islamic countries operate that way too, if not all of them; undoubtedly Iran is that way.

The internationalist atheistic communists will support any and all movements that are out to upset the established order, seeing themselves moving in and taking advantage of the chaos. Red China is currently doing that in most of southern Africa, where Islam does not dominate and things are more chaotic.


79 posted on 01/14/2018 7:08:28 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: GoldenState_Rose

Great words by Dr. King but he got caught up in a KGB trap that he was warned about, but ignored. His personal assistant, Jack O’Dell (Hunter Pitts O’Dell) was a high ranking member of the Communist Party USA but King kept him on until news stories forced him to “fire” (not really) him.
O’Dell secretly shifted to the SCLC’s New York office until he was again exposed and left to help Jesse Jackson as his International Affairs Director for Operation Breadbasket, then Operation PUSH and finally in the National Rainbow Coalition.

Oh, by the way, there was no way that O’Dell WAS NOT a KGB asset if not a covert “agent”. He was brought into the King organization (i.e. to King), by admitted CPUSA member/KGB moneybagman attorney Stanley Levison.

Levison had been a Party member in the 1950’s and possibly earlier when he offered to aid Dr. King’s protests in the South. He became his attorney, financial advisor and general policy advisor, all the while being a KGB moneybags man to the CPUSA, which he admitted before a congressional hearing.

Levison also turned out to be the person who wrote King’s very harsh speech at the leftist Riverside Church in NYC condemning the US policy in S. Vietnam. I thought that O’Dell has written it but recent news articles say that Levison did it, which makes sense since it parroted the Soviet line that “the US was the greatest purveyor of violence in the world”.

More information on Levison and King might be coming out in a new article or book.

However, I wonder if the reportedly author is going to delve into the Soviet tactic known as the “KGB Sandwich” in which two KGB agents “sandwich” in a target and literally become the target’s top advisors/confidantes.
Besides Dr. King, albert Einstein was caught in the same trap, and perhaps Robert Oppenheimer was too (family/relatives were CP members and possibly Soviet atomic spies).

The “KGB sandwich” might also apply to Barack Obama if what is known or suspected about Frank Marshall Davis and David Simon Cantor/Don Rose proves to be accurate.

Stay tuned. Some pro-American historians are NOT ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL but are driving down that “highway of truth” at full speed on their way to deliver the truth.

King


80 posted on 01/14/2018 8:01:51 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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