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What Does Tesla's Automated Truck Mean for Truckers?
Wired | November 17, 2017 | Aarian Marshal

Posted on 11/25/2017 8:27:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Link only due to copyright issues: https://www.wired.com/story/what-does-teslas-truck-mean-for-truckers/


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: automakers; automation; tesla; trucking
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To: KC_for_Freedom
(1) The bugs need to be resolved, (Google cars wait for everything else to stop at an intersection before they can proceed — but cars with drivers will roll through and gain the right of way.)

I find this to be a fascinating phenomenon. I think the hidden, and perhaps even unconscious rationale, is to preserve momentum, so that drivers actually believe that they are "stopped" while they are rolling. I find that if I do actually stop, I will get to go through, although perhaps a cycle behind my "rightful" spot. It's all academic, as I'm a few hundred yards from my house on these occasions.

21 posted on 11/25/2017 10:26:04 PM PST by dr_lew (I)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
still some bugs to work out on the "self-driving" car


22 posted on 11/25/2017 10:33:04 PM PST by Reverend Wright (The CBC: Deceiving Canadians since 1936.)
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To: Vineyard

Doesn’t it follow that the Tesla car is just as much a fraud? It’s just that its smaller scale makes the “inconvenience” tolerable.


23 posted on 11/25/2017 10:50:09 PM PST by dr_lew (I)
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To: TheNext

They don’t have to be perfect, just better than human drivers, which is a decidedly low bar from what I see everyday. Granted truck drivers are better than the average driver, but they still cause accidents. Humans aren’t perfect, guess we’ll never get the bugs worked out of us either.


24 posted on 11/25/2017 11:04:25 PM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Before they make a single truck, they have a couple of hundred thousand people waiting for their ‘s’ car and they haven’t delivered.... Electric and automated trucks.... That’s another shyster pipe dream waiting for an infusion of cold hard cash from foolish investors. Investors who will never see a red cent of return on their investments.


25 posted on 11/26/2017 12:15:03 AM PST by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Reverend Wright

Remember the autonomous Killer Robot in Robocop that couldn’t figure out how to go down a set of stairs? LOL


26 posted on 11/26/2017 12:19:45 AM PST by Kickass Conservative ( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Self-driving vehicles will obey the speed limits perfectly, even when those limits are set unrealistically low.

Think about the traffic backups when these perfectly driven vehicles begin to clog the roads where the traffic is routinely flowing along at 20 mph over the limit.


27 posted on 11/26/2017 12:44:46 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The new cry will be two fold:

1) brake ! brake ! brake!

2) Alahwahoo Whackbar ! You Haul, we stall!


28 posted on 11/26/2017 2:17:50 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama FAscism) http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: yadent

It’s a good thing Musk makes batteries that can store energy on the grid.


29 posted on 11/26/2017 2:26:32 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: jerod

Investors who will never see a red cent of return on their investments.

...

I remember when the same was said about Amazon, especially here on FR.


30 posted on 11/26/2017 2:29:04 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Fresh Wind

Why wouldn’t the limit be changed in that case?


31 posted on 11/26/2017 2:30:12 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: lacrew

I don’t suppose Musk would use some of these solar cells for these chargers.


32 posted on 11/26/2017 2:31:53 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Durus

Many truck drivers can go 30 years accident free.

Robot’s errors make truck driving unsafe.

As long as your kid is not killed. Robots make good drivers into bad. That’s the fact jack.

Robots are a strickly legal issue. If Justice big govt wants control, then drivers will be falsely blamed for bad robots. Airplanes still have two pilots after decades, because Robots are unreliable. Deal with it.


33 posted on 11/26/2017 2:42:58 AM PST by TheNext (DEPORT ISLAM RETROACTIVELY)
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To: yadent

Speaking of charging stations ... just imagine how many there will have to be and how much power they will have to pump just to get these wonder trucks over the mountains in winter. (Who will put the mandatory chains on these driver-less vehicles?

And of course inquiring minds want to know were all this power is coming from - wind farms, bio, solar? Just how much acreage does California plant to put into power production just to get trucks over its mountains?


34 posted on 11/26/2017 3:06:31 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: yadent

You raise a good issue about power requirements. If long haul electric vehicles become the norm, fueling stations will look something like this. Large short haul trucking firms might even need one at their facilities.

http://www.elp.com/articles/2017/05/ameren-unveils-advanced-distributed-energy-microgrid.html


35 posted on 11/26/2017 3:51:22 AM PST by EVO X
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To: lacrew
"Musk also claimed the power from the superchargers would cost 7 cents per kwh...and the truck would be warranteed for a million miles. If energy really costs 15 cents per kwh, Tesla is on the hook for tens of thousands of dollars in subsidized charging...not to mention what it costs them to warranty the truck for a million miles...oh, and the cost of building a supercharger network. Details, details" Someday maybe. But, right now in order to achieve the Tesla 500 mile range the battery(s) weight would take up too much of a rigs allowable gross weight. Until there's a major break through in battery storage this is much to do about nothing. Personally, I see hydrogen fuel cell technology as the best option on the horizon. Meanwhile, dinasour fat will continue to rule🙄...
36 posted on 11/26/2017 3:59:56 AM PST by snoringbear (,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
SELF-DRIVING CARS WILL KILL PEOPLE. WHO DECIDES WHO DIES?

Same for trucks?

37 posted on 11/26/2017 4:04:25 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: yadent

Great comment. Why are they not using gasoline? They wouldn’t run into such problems.


38 posted on 11/26/2017 5:06:07 AM PST by poconopundit (SHOE REPAIR SHOP: "We will heel you. We will save your sole. We will even dye for you")
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To: TheNext

What is your evidence for this claim that robot trucks are more unsafe than human drivers? As you state it as fact there must be a lot of studies demonstrating that fact and I must have missed it. From the data I have seen, fatal commercial truck accidents are caused by (truck) driver error about 30% of the time.

The reason for there being pilots in commercial aircraft is far more complex than “robots” being unreliable.

My biggest problem with automating driving (and flying) is that we have a poor record of securing computer systems.


39 posted on 11/26/2017 6:41:44 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: yadent

Used to be we didn’t have gas stations that could fill a big truck in minutes. Solvable problems get solved, starting with where they’re most cost effective.


40 posted on 11/26/2017 7:29:05 AM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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