What Yesterday’s Elections Really Tell Us

IWB ^ | Mark Angelides

[davikkm]

There will be a lot of speculation and recrimination around the results of yesterday’s elections. The DNC will (and already are) claiming it as a rejection of President Trump, whilst the GOP is remaining somewhat silence. But what is the real deal here? Who truly won and lost, and what are the wider ramifications?

The DNC, and most specifically Tom Perez, have bought themselves a stay of execution. After losing every major election since (and including) the presidency, they were sorely in need of a big win. Virginia (already Democrat headed) and New Jersey Governorships are not huge, but they are nonetheless wins. Yet, the relief they are feeling has turned into something much worse…hubris.

[butlerweave]

Nancy and Chuck said they’ll take everything next election and impeach Trump ,LOL

[BenLurkin]

They tell us that the ‘Rats can only win with gimmicky candidates.

Backed by hours and hours a media hype.

[Lurkinanloomin]

Allowing McAwful four years to perfect vote fraud doomed us.
The same people who sabotaged Cucinelli expected us to vote for their guy this time.
Didn’t happen.
The Bush crew is responsible for the flipping of VA with their open borders policy, so they have no one to blame but themselves.

[Regulator]

“The Bush crew is responsible for the flipping of VA with their open borders policy”

The Truth

[snarkpup]

Yesterday, here in Mesa County (CO), the teacher's union swept the school board elections and the tax increases for slush funds passed by landslides. On the bright side, here in <airquotes>conservative</airquotes> Western Colorado I'm outvoted only 3:1; when I lived in California, it was 4:1.

[Bob434]

[[What Yesterday’s Elections Really Tell Us]]

It tells us that blue states will hire blue candidates- not too hard to figure out- blue states are so blind that they will hire someone they hate rather than go with any other candidate- Virginia just hired someone they can’t stand because he isn’t for sanctuary cities- and right after they hired him- they screamed at him- that’s how delusional these folks are- but by golly they will almost always hire someone with a D after their name just because- so it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out why V hired the D

[G Larry]

That the GOP is to fractured to mount any effective campaigns.

Luke warm fails!

We need true Conservatives.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Trump’s base does not show up for RINOs.
Been there, done that.

[pfflier]

Any dim wins outside of the “blue archipelago”?

[Tilted Irish Kilt]

G Larry :" Luke warm fails!
We need true Conservatives."

Don't run a luke warm candidate
running on a luke warm uni-party platform
evading the name of the very coat-tails he's running on,
and then request an 11th hour "Hail Mary" request for assistance the day before the election.
You got beat because the DemocRATS got out there amongst government employees, and the malcontents (!)
and because they needed to make a good showing .. or, die as a viable political party.
they survived,.. you didn't !!!

[onyx]

Solid Democrat wins in 2 Blue states only tells us that Democrats were much more motivated to elect their PROGRESSIVES than Republicans were to even leave their abodes to vote for the RINO/ESTABLISHMENTS the GOP offered.

WARNING TO GOP: REJECT TRUMP AT YOUR OWN PERIL.

WISE-UP! PASS TAX CUTS! PRONTO!

STOP CHAIN MIGRATION!

FUND THE WALL!

FORGET THE DREAMERS!

BUCK-UP! MAN-UP!

[HLPhat]

>>Luke warm fails!

>>We need true Conservatives.

BINGO!

WHAT. DEFINES. CONSERVATISM?

 

Luke 17:1-4

7 Jesus said to his disciples: "Things that cause people to sin are bound to come, but woe to that person through whom they come. 2 It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin. 3 So watch yourselves.

"If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. 4 If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, 'I repent,' forgive him."

NIV

[edh]

I’m gonna refer to the map at this link.

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/virginia-governor-election-gillespie-northam

It almost looks like Gillespie improved a bit over Trump 2016 in the solid blue areas. Look at the red arrows on the Shift from 2016 tab.

Now, look at the Vote share tab.

The bigger percentage shift to Dems are in the ‘red’ areas of VA. It almost looks like Democrat turnout was normal for a gubernatorial election, but GOP was depressed turnout.

I’m thinking the shellacking (and it was that) was due to a poor GOP candidate. I am not saying a Trump conservative would have won (VA has undergone a seismic shift for all of the reasons explained in other threads). I think a pro Trump candidate would have made it interesting or even eek out a win.

I kind of think some of those polls that showed Gillespie gaining ground were due to slightly higher support in the NoVA area and an expectation that GOP voters would be out in strong numbers in the usual areas. That obviously didn’t happen.

Sadly, the weak candidate had an impact on the state level races. Again, VA is shifting more and more blue, but a lot of their statewide wins might be one term wonders (kind of like the Dem nationwide wins in the House in 2006 and 2008).

Bottom line, while I think VA is ridiculously tough for national and state wide elections (POTUS, Senate, Gov), I don’t think the GOP should pull a California and completely dump the state. That’d be stupid. It’d make things more difficult for the Dems in that they’d need to spend money to prevent things from getting out of hand.

What is going to suck is the redistricting coming up if the Dems’ trend continues. VA will more than likely get more EVs (thus more Reps) ... they’ll have fun carving that state up into rather interesting districts.

Hopefully they’ll run a more conservative candidate that resonates with the voters in that state and motivates them to get out and vote. If Trump can deliver on some promises and a more inspiring candidate runs in 2021, VA, while not shifting back into the safe R column, could lurch to the right and prevent the Dems from making VA even more blue.

After 2021, all bets are off. I’m sure VA is going to continue to lurch leftward due to legal and illegal immigration. Many from VA think it’s too late already ... they’re certainly right to some extent, but the numbers/data seem to show there is at least some time to prevent a redistricting disaster in the 2020s. They just gotta put Karl Rove out to pasture.

[VanDeKoik]

Kasserine Pass was a defeat at the hands of an enemy that was supposed to be on the ropes. They were, but like the Germans, we find that indeed Johnny Lib can shoot, so we will have to get a little dirty to drive them back.

The point is that we learned, got some humility, and did the job right next time.

The bad news for them is that these wins are not that important in the long-run, and we now know their playbook, and their arrogance will make them make mistakes.

[octex]

It only tells us that two blue States elected Democrats, as expected.

VA already had a Dem Gov and Christi in NJ, who was hardly a Conservative, was just replaced with a Dem a little more leftish.

[Viking2002]

Yesterday's election tells us the needle hasn't moved one inch from a year ago. Except for finding a way to shoehorn that Prince William shemale into a slot (it is NoVA, after all), the usual suspects won. I don't count New Jersey as a flip because Chrispie Creme was a RINO, at best, with baggage in a blue state, so the Pubbie candidate was doomed from the start. Status quo, folks. All the Dem puffery about 'being back' and 'taking the House' is akin to the Washington Redskins scoring a garbage touchdown in the fourth quarter when they're down 51-3 to the Patriots.