No! It is NOT a good idea! Whoever heard of such a thing? "penial colony"!
What is that, some new sort of nudist colony for men only?
Never mind!
Posted on 09/14/2017 9:11:12 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
I make no apologies for our nation's high incarceration rate. Anybody dumb enough to end up in prison deserves it. The problem is the $30-60k costs per inmate and the resulting Prison Industrial Complex. Probably around $100 billion/yr. Devil's Island was too expensive for France to maintain. Where do we send them? Start with jailed immigrants. Use 3rd world labor rates to cut down costs. American prisoners can 'volunteer' to work in Siberia, developing places to allow Russia to prepare for war with China. No slave labor here. Some may even choose to stay once their sentences are up. In Russia's case Siberian development can only happen with Chinese labor, a Trojan horse in the making. Trump is a dealmaker, an unconventional(and successful) one. Where am I out of it on this issue?
Mr/Ms Garth: The key word is voluntary. Will the democrats not monitor those things and allow it to happen? Guess it depends on whose in charge. Democrats are the ones who did that kinda stuff btw.
Plenty of other non-crimes
1) not selling a cake to a certain customer
2) selling gasoline for the wrong price
3) transporting cigarettes over state lines and reselling same
4) saying the wrong words ( hate speech )
the list increases daily
We have an enormous number incarcerated for “crimes” of activities protected by the Constitution. Simple possession of disallowed firearms, “hate crimes” (as though the ‘why’ of wantonly beating someone to death matters), drug crimes (arguably protected activity, albeit distasteful), lying while not under oath (while gov’t agents do so with impunity), etc.
The incarceration rate IS bizarrely high. I’m not lauding/excusing the punished behaviors, but questioning why such things need be punished, and why by incarceration.
My 1st thought also.
Optional military service is intriguing, and has worked in the past, but our current all-volunteer professional military would be degraded by practically compelling rank thugs into difficult situations and relying on them to perform well.
And by “dropped off” I’m thinking via parachute.
?? What the hell are talking about ???
Cant disagree with your list too much...add to it contempt of court for illegal judge rulings...
indeed - forgot contempt of court
today’s version of slighting the Emperor
I think there is a little bit of Snake Plissken in most Conservatives. The libtards have Pajama Boy.
Fence off Kalifornia and send them all there - the politicians will be happy to have their citizens pay the tab....
they tried that in Pennsylvania in the 19th century.
punishment was isolation and prayer.
the result was a high rate of insanity.
I personally don’t see how that helps the American people.
You cannot force someone to accept the tenets of faith.
If you do, you are no better than the Islamists. That is exactly what they do. Convert or else.
No! It is NOT a good idea! Whoever heard of such a thing? "penial colony"!
What is that, some new sort of nudist colony for men only?
Never mind!
A heart has to want to change before piercing it does any good.
Optional military service-no. I’ve seen first hand how people not up to snuff get in the way of the military mission. Now that there are transgenders serving we don’t need to go down that road. Perhaps a French Foreign Legion type organization but when was the last time the real one was used?
Here’s a column of mine published in our local paper several years ago. Some of the figures might be a little dated now, but I think you’ll like it.
Why Have Penitentiaries Anyway?
Most people realize that the court and penal systems in North America are seriously broken and must be fixed, yet contemplating doing away with penitentiaries sounds ridiculous, doesn’t it? Barely 200 years ago, an experiment began which has cost us untold billions of dollars. Just last year, this experiment resulted in 1.4 million adults incarcerated in federal and state penitentiaries (a figure which has quadrupled since 1980) at a cost of nearly $40,000 each.
As Alan Elsner pointed out in a recent Washington Post article, 2.2 million people are engaged in catching criminals and putting and keeping them behind bars, and “corrections” has become one of the largest sectors of the U.S. economy, employing more people than the combined workforces of General Motors, Ford and Wal-Mart, the three biggest corporate employers in the country. In many “prison town” counties, the number one employer is the Department of Corrections. This is a staggering expense of over $50 billion, an amount that increases by additional billions for each year of the last 25 years of explosive prison growth. As the prison population ages, the taxpayer is paying for medical procedures he can’t afford for himself, and the victims of these criminals realize no compensation at all.
Few realize that the first penitentiary in the world was founded in Philadelphia in 1792. Jails had always existed for the purpose of holding the accused until trial, after which the guilty would pay a fine, make restitution to the victim, be banished, be executed, etc. However, the concept of warehousing criminals to cause them to repent was entirely new.
Imagine a criminal justice system where penitentiaries didn’t even exist, but where a person paid for his crimes rather than having society pay to keep him incarcerated.
One such nation existed. If you stole someone’s property, say a sheep, and were caught with the animal in your possession, you repaid the victim with two sheep, but you didn’t go to a penitentiary. The victim also got a financial settlement, satisfying the desire for victim restitution in our time.
If you sold the stolen sheep, thereby being more involved in the crime, you paid the victim four sheep.
If you committed a capital crime, (murder, rape, kidnapping, etc.) you paid with your life, but you didn’t go to a penitentiary. Such facilities didn’t exist in this nation. They were not needed.
Such a system would completely do away with our newest growth industry, penitentiaries, and restore the victim of crime financially.
I’m not going to tell you where I got the idea for this system, but it’s from a reliable source. Of course, it will never happen here because a powerful lobby has grown up around the prison system that will fight hard to protect the status quo. Correction officers have formed powerful labor unions, and their financial contributions to our politicians will easily outweigh the will of the people. I know, I know, I’m such a young man to be so cynical.
Granted. The piercing must, however, be available else nothing happens. The only salvation in prison is getting out.
Spoken by a nonbeliever. If you understood living in faith you would not be able to make these comments. Insanity is not a product of salvation. Nor is isolation leading to insanity a Christian practice.
I’d bet Bikini Atoll would be an excellent location. Far enough away and no need for expensive electricity. Night time glow you could read by. But can we have guillotines too? I want guillotines, just like in Papillon. France probably still has a few used ones we could refurbish.
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