President Roosevelt Liked Silenced Rifles

Gun Watch ^ | 13 August, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

President Teddy Roosevelt was a big fan of silencers. The only silencers available to him were Maxim silencers. A silencer for his take-down model 94 Winchester 30-30, above, cost $9.70 in 1909.  He used the rifle frequently on his Sagamore Hill estate on Long Island, New York.  It was the classic use of a suppressed rifle. He used it to cull pests without disturbing his neighbors, the Duponts and the Tiffanys .

From rarewinchesters.com:

Whenever Winchester introduced a new model, Roosevelt was quick to put it through its paces. He acquired an 1894 similar to all his other rifles in extras and embellishments and used it on an antelope hunt. His "little .30" as he called it, was able to knock down a good sized antelope at a distance of more than 180 yds. After witnessing the fantastic shot and the irrefutable and immediate results, his guide said that the gun was just "aces" in his book. He also used a Model 94 outfitted with a Maxim silencer at his Long Island home "Sagamore Hill" so as not to disturb neighbors when varmints were in need of culling.

 The Sagamore take down 30-30 model 94 Winchester was not President Roosevelt's only silenced firearm. When he traveled to Africa for his specimen collecting Safari, he took two other silenced rifles.

 

The last case to be added to his Winchester cases to be loaded for the trip was case number 15. The contents of the case are shown below.

The ship left port in 1910. Notice that two rifles fitted with silencers were in crate number 15.  They were a "U.S. magazine rifle, M' 1908 chambered in .30 Govt.  It was fitted with illuminated sights. The other, a M'95 would be a lever gun chambered in 405 W.C.F.  The 405 Winchester is a powerful cartridge, as made clear by President Roosevelt's use of it to collect the rhinoceros pictured below. It is unknown if the rifle pictured was the M'95 that was fitted for a Maxim silencer.

From Theodore Roosevelt Hunter-Conservationist, published by Boone and Crocket, 2009, page 253, Loeb informed Winchester in 1910:

"And so on the 27th of February Loeb let Winchester know they would be receiving "from General Crozier [US. Army Ordnance] a Springfield rifle and a 405 Winchester rifle, both fitted with Maxim's silencers, and one of them with an arrangement for shooting at night, together with 200 Springfield cartridges. Please add t these 100 cartridges for the 405 Winchester and the cleaning apparatus, with oil, and have them put in a case that will enable the President to use them on the steamer..."

TR knew full well that he could hardly spend some three weeks at sea and resist the temptation to open his tin-lined cases and shoot. The two rifles with silencers would solve that problem nicely.

President Roosevelt understood and appreciated Maxim silencers. He used them for their intended purpose, to prevent annoyance of his neighbors and fellow travelers.

Silencers have the same purposes today, and today, we know how important they are to protect hearing when hunting or target shooting. When the Franklin Roosevelt administration made silencers prohibitively expensive and absurdly regulated for the common man, no one could explain why. No reason was given in the legislative history.

The regulation of silencers are likely to be reformed with the Hearing Protection Act, H.R. 367.

I suspect that if T.R. knew of the proposed legislation, he would say "Bully!", and heartily approve.

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[marktwain]

Silencers can be legally purchased by children, over the counter, for cash, in New Zealand.

They are not used in crime there.

[riverrunner]

Deregulation of these hearing protection devices would be nice.

[Red Badger]

But they better not have a nuclear weapon........................

[DIRTYSECRET]

It’s not like one size fits all.

[Red Badger]

LOL!....NZ is a nuclear free zone.................

[elcid1970]

Antifas should fear whispering death. All that rioting & noise where a suppressed rifle shot would not be heard.

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Antifas should fear whispering death. All that rioting & noise where a suppressed rifle shot would not be heard.

When firing a suppressed .22LR bolt action rifle, about all you hear is the firing pin going "click." You could take down an entire riot and they would never figure out what is going on.

This solution was actually promulgated by no less a mind than Col. Jeff Cooper.

[riverrunner]

Suppressors are very simple to make.

[ThePatriotsFlag]

I'm surprised the liberal do-gooders are not DEMANDING a silencer on every gun to "protect the hearing of the children that might be nearby."

I got a silencer and I had to get a special case for the gun to carry the paperwork you must present if asked. What BS! Also, it took 1 week to purchase it and see it ... but it had to remain in the gun store's safe until the paperwork came through 3 years later!!!

[elcid1970]

“You could take down an entire riot....”

Just concentrate on the leaders. Or do like Sergeant York and pick off the rearmost first.

[Disambiguator]

.22 ammo is once again cheap and plentiful.

:^)