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1 posted on 08/14/2017 9:01:36 AM PDT by fruser1
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No, it doesn’t. And just because some creeps decided to riot together and one maniac decided to kill somebody, doesn’t make American nationalism a bad thing. (I hate that word, the real word should be: patriotism.)

Funny thing, I’m vacationing up in a very liberal section of Maine, it appears. Why do they all have multiple American flags flying on their houses?


2 posted on 08/14/2017 9:03:58 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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James Brown was Black and Proud, but was still a great American......................


3 posted on 08/14/2017 9:07:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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No, but that is the box they are trying to put is in.
The event in Charlottesville will be used to paint anyone opposed to the erasure of history as a bigot.


4 posted on 08/14/2017 9:07:26 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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If these are the guys you’re trying to equate with “Pride and Nationalism”, then you can have them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn5IftqHhl8

(and for those who don’t want to watch the link, this is the bunch complaining the “F*cking Jew-lovers are gassing us)


5 posted on 08/14/2017 9:08:05 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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Not if it’s gay pride or black power.

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6 posted on 08/14/2017 9:10:26 AM PDT by boycott
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I’ve been saying it since this business in VA first emerged:

The more the left/antifa equates white Americans with White Racism, the more white Americans will come to believe it’s their only redoubt.

At some point the survival instinct will override political philosophy. Even religion.


8 posted on 08/14/2017 9:10:38 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I am white and proud of it. I am more than tired of being told to be ashamed of my ‘white privilege.’

While obtaining a Master’s in History degree at an Arizona University in the early 2000s, a reading requirement was four books describing the scourge of whiteness. The anti white meme has been percolating in the universities for at least a decade. Now it is front and center on the public stag.
Too bad that a Martin Luther King is absent from the scene.


9 posted on 08/14/2017 9:12:42 AM PDT by conservativehistorian (civilizational suicide continues)
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Nationalism and Patriotism are anathema to Globalism.
Lefties always use smear tactics, so don't be surprised when you are depicted as something you know you're not.

10 posted on 08/14/2017 9:13:26 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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No, Pride and Nationalism is the opposite of Hate and Supremacy. Hate and Supremacy is a feature of identity politics, Pride and Nationalism is a feature of people coming together as one nation.


13 posted on 08/14/2017 9:16:48 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (End terror-tourism. Make it months of community service and restitution, or a felony.)
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I'm white.I am neither proud nor ashamed of that,any more than I'm proud,or ashamed,of having blue eyes...or being 6' 0".

I'm male.Ditto above regarding pride or shame.

I'm Christian.I feel very fortunate to be Christian.That's it.

I don't know if I qualify as a "nationalist" or not.I believe this is an amazing country and I feel very fortunate to be a citizen.I've served in the military,worked hard,paid my taxes,obeyed the law.That's it.

Nazis? Watch them...make sure they don't cause trouble.The Klan...ditto.

Maoists,anarchists? They outnumber Nazis and Klan members in this country by a factor of at least 50 (if not greater).Watch them carefully,particularly given their numbers.

15 posted on 08/14/2017 9:19:28 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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Freeper Poll: Does Pride and Nationalism equate to Hate and Supremacy? (vanity)

It doesn't have to. But like many other things there are people who will pervert pride and nationalism into something hate filled and bigoted.

16 posted on 08/14/2017 9:19:53 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Nine people died violently in Chicago this weekend.

One person died violently at the event in Charlottesville.

That’s 9:1.

There is a huge outcry over something that is 1/9th of what happened in Chicago.

Why?

Money.

The purpose of the Democrat Party is to elect thieves to public office so that they have access to the public treasuries in order to loot them.

The Democrats control Chicago which allows them to control Illinois.

They are stuck like a tick on the public treasuries there, which is why they are broke.

Virginia is a different story.

The Democrats don’t have absolute control of Virginia.....yet.

They want unhindered access to the public treasuries there in order to loot them.

This is why the press, the Democrats, are making such a big issue out of Charlottesville versus Chicago.

They have to get more Democrats elected in Virginia.

That way the Democrats, and Soros, have complete access to the public treasuries there so they can loot them.

It’s just about money.

Race doesn’t have anything to do with it.


19 posted on 08/14/2017 9:29:20 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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Pride and nationalism vs. hate and supremacy are two very different things. Nothing wrong with pride and pride of your nation, nationalism, our exceptionalism, our western culture, etc. But, hate and supremacy—that is wrong. The latter, in my opinion, is when you back up or lead your views with violence or threat of violence, when you act on your views with violence. But it is also historical, and guilt by association. Nazis, Islam, and Confederate flags, for example, represent views and actions that are hateful, are inseparably linked with evil, with views and violence that are at odds with Americans, they are unAmerican, they are the flags and views used by people, groups, and nations to kill Americans, to intimidate Americans.


20 posted on 08/14/2017 9:29:44 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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I think a good word to substitute for “Nationalism” for the time being would be “anti-globalist”. The Left is intentionally trying to paint people like me, a fervent “anti-globalist” as a racist, white nationalist. There is a very big difference in a grape and a grapefruit.


23 posted on 08/14/2017 9:35:21 AM PDT by RatRipper (Unindicted co-conspirators: the Mainstream Media and the Democratic Party)
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Every one on the planet comes t the USA for help.

We would not be in a position to help any more if we sink in status or abilities.


26 posted on 08/14/2017 9:38:20 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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Both the Neo-NaziKKKWhiteSupremacist and the BlackLivesMatterCommunistAntiFa groups are abhorent.....

The Republican party, President and Consevatives have soundly condemned the NeoNaziKKKWhiteSupremacist groups...

However the BlackLivesMatterCommunistAntiFa groups have received positive accolades and tacit support from the Democratic party.....From what I can tell, they are the enforcement arm of the democratic party....

Both of those groups showed up prepared to fight and they both got what they want.....


27 posted on 08/14/2017 9:39:03 AM PDT by nevergore (I have a terrible rash on my covfefe....)
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Without national pride and shared heritage, there is no cohesiveness, no common cause, no patriotism. Cohesive societies are more stable and people feel safer than in balkanized societies, where societal standards of behavior are either fluid or nonexistent and people are distrustful of each other and more apt to conflict. The lesson of Rome still holds true. So no, hate and supremacy does not equal pride and nationalism. Balkanization and destruction of culture leads to hate. Just ask the hindus who have their holy places blown up by muslims.


28 posted on 08/14/2017 9:39:35 AM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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Nationalism is having your own house in a neighborhood.

You can be good neighbors with those who share different values.

The problem comes when you force those with different values to live together under the same roof. That’s multiculturalism in a nutshell. Doesn’t mean one is better than the other, it’s just that having clashing cultures competing for the same resources, creates tensions.


29 posted on 08/14/2017 9:39:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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It depends on who you ask.


32 posted on 08/14/2017 9:43:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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There is nothing wrong--not wrong for anyone--to take pride in their family, race, community, or other aspect of their heritage. What is wrong is when you let your love of what has led to your very existence, positive motivations, etc., morph into something ugly--something driven primarily by hate for someone else, his or her, family, race, community or what have you!

We are being manipulated into denial of pride in things which once motivated our better natures, because those who control much of the media and verbal arts have bought into a war on the actual diversity of populations, under the pretense of celebrating "diversity."

We are being "gamed," in other words, by those who want to submerge America--as well as other nations--into some form of humanist nightmare, usually referred to as a "new world order."

Tactics For Victory

Surrender By Subterfuge

God willing, we will wake up, before it is too late. But no! Pride in values clearly traceable to the Fifth Commandment, do not equate to hate or mean -spirited treatment of others.

33 posted on 08/14/2017 9:44:25 AM PDT by Ohioan
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