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As Trump Dumps Climate Deal, It’s Worth Looking at Rational Climate Change Skeptics Actually Believe
IWB ^ | Mark Angelides

Posted on 06/01/2017 6:03:32 AM PDT by davikkm

Almost every major world newspaper and website has gone into meltdown since President Trump announced that the US would not be moving forward with the Paris Climate Accord. The headlines range from the incredulous to the mocking, and each story trots out the same statistics and motivations that we have been hearing about since the Globalist movement changed Global Warming to Climate Change (and of course 20 years prior it was Global Cooling that was going to finish us off as a species). Another thing they all had in common was a serious distaste for those that they call Climate Deniers.

The term “Climate Denier” is purposely designed to evince connotations of “Holocaust Denier” and many otherwise serious people have called for imprisonment for those that don’t follow the official line on Climate Change policy. It has become a tyrannical with hunt with respected scientists not only losing out on research grants, but in many cases their actual jobs.

But what is it about those who question the “orthodoxy” that so incites the Believers? It is easy enough to understand why many scientists would get on board and defend their Golden Goose, but what is it that angers the general public about questioning of (fairly shaky) science?

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: climatedeal; skeptics; trump

1 posted on 06/01/2017 6:03:32 AM PDT by davikkm
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To: davikkm

Climate change has ALWAYS been happening.

- even *IF* humankind is responsible, without India and China doing a lot more, there’s no point in myself or any other American compromising our economic or social lives. I’m not going to freeze or starve just so some dude in Delhi can have his first car.


2 posted on 06/01/2017 6:10:41 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: davikkm

Another Obama horrible, but politically correct “legacy” may well fall at 3PM. American jobs and America first.


3 posted on 06/01/2017 6:11:01 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not tired of Winning.)
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To: davikkm
Simple .... Humans are not the cause of anything "climate"

We have, in the past, polluted our cities and air and water, but education fixed all that (at least in the USA), and those were all local and not globull "climate change"

4 posted on 06/01/2017 6:11:51 AM PDT by knarf
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To: davikkm

Trump should just say “Look, can we ALL agree that pollution is bad and we should do everything we can to stop it.... but this deal does not do that”


5 posted on 06/01/2017 6:13:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF REPEALING OBAMACARE THAT IS WORSE THAN OBAMACARE ITSELF***)
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To: Mr. K

This plus more
I assume Trump has an alternative plan up his sleeve that will send Merkel off in another old lady hissy fit


6 posted on 06/01/2017 6:21:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (We voted for change, not leftover change)
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To: RedStateRocker

If you skip the climate guys, the weather guys, and the PhD folks...and go to the Paleontologists...you get to this odd historical issue.

Over the past one-million years...there’s a minimum of fifty catastrophic events which involve meteors, comets, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, and massive death. Some of these wiped out hundreds of thousands. Some of these wiped out a quarter of the population of the Earth. Some might have even gone and killed 99.9-percent of the population of the planet.

So, it’s fine that folks want to worry about climate and carbon, but the odds are 100-percent that more comets, meteors, and volcanic eruptions will occur, and wipe out the vast majority of people. Our efforts ought to be on studying the past, and finding ways for humans to survive the next catastrophic event. On the priority scale....we need to grasp what’s happened in the past more than playing around with carbon numbers that are mostly worthless.


7 posted on 06/01/2017 6:22:56 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Mr. K
Trump should just say “Look, can we ALL agree that pollution is bad and we should do everything we can to stop it.... but this deal does not do that”


But the Obama EPA was able to get CO2 classified as a pollutant. So, before that can happen, the Trump EPA needs to remove CO2 from the pollutant classification. And just imagine the ape$h1t from the left when that happens.
8 posted on 06/01/2017 6:36:06 AM PDT by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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To: MMaschin

“But the Obama EPA was able to get CO2 classified as a pollutant.”

The Obama EPA should have consulted some plants.


9 posted on 06/01/2017 6:49:37 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: davikkm

Then, there’s this....

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/811652/Jean-Claude-Juncker-Donald-Trump-Paris-agreement-climate-change-years-withdraw-USA

Jean-Claude Juncker warns Donald Trump it will take YEARS for US to leave Paris Agreement


Getting more desperate, by the minute.


10 posted on 06/01/2017 6:53:05 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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Now I'm getting alittle worried

Could TRUMP really decide to stay & piss off Conservatives?

Nah!!! LOL

11 posted on 06/01/2017 6:54:16 AM PDT by KavMan
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To: davikkm

If President Trump announces leaving Paris Agreement at 3PM EDT, that means I have until 4 PM EDT before I am underwater in Central Florida.


12 posted on 06/01/2017 6:59:16 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Jane Long

Trump will leave the Paris agreement ahead of schedule and way under budget.


13 posted on 06/01/2017 7:00:44 AM PDT by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: silverleaf
I assume Trump has an alternative plan up his sleeve that will send Merkel off in another old lady hissy fit

The only thing Merkel is missing is about 100 cats.

14 posted on 06/01/2017 7:04:51 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: davikkm

The Europeans are great at drawing up stout treaties, especially ones that hogtie the USA. But the Euros never meet their own goals. Their emissions continue to rise. They are all talk and no results.

The USA is the only country to lower it’s CO2 emission for the last 8 straight years. But emissions don’t respect borders so we don’t get as much benefit as we should while Europe gets more benefits than it should.

When Europe catches up with the USA at lowering emissions, then we can talk about an agreement. Until then, they are the ones with work to do, not the USA.


15 posted on 06/01/2017 7:14:54 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Ride To The Sound Of The Guns)
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To: davikkm
The "general public" is not angry.

The "general public" actually goes outside on occasion and has a few questions about "climate change" themselves.

The people who go totally nuts on the subject are those who see their mandate to control being taken away from them.

16 posted on 06/01/2017 7:22:01 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: MMaschin; cymbeline
But the Obama EPA was able to get CO2 classified as a pollutant. So, before that can happen, the Trump EPA needs to remove CO2 from the pollutant classification.

Actually, the EPA fought classifying CO2 as a pollutant.

SCOTUS effectively forced them to do so based on Congress' definition of pollutant.

Congress needs to fix this - not the EPA.

17 posted on 06/01/2017 7:37:52 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: davikkm

Good post. Thanks. Great set of talking points rationally made. Tone of simple common sense. Effective.


18 posted on 06/01/2017 8:09:38 AM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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