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Men not marrying? How deep does "the problem" go?
YouTube ^ | March 15, 2012 | Karen Straughan

Posted on 04/23/2017 3:45:20 PM PDT by grundle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlvMAS_20K4

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: feminism; genderwars; marriage; mgtow
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To: baltimorepoet

This is certainly an eye opening thread......


321 posted on 04/23/2017 10:52:43 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I was in your same boat about 15 years ago.

Be CAREFUL.

I had friends marry women from church - singing in the choir, etc. The Western culture is toxic. Women have insane expectations. The choir girl left husband 1 for husband 2, then left him for another man. All before age 35. Tread carefully.

Western women will pay no attention to you in college. Once you hit 30 and are successful they’ll be coming after you, especially if you display outward signs of success (house car etc). At 35 you can date women from 18 to 40. The ones your age are divorce or have been with many men and are all business. The younger ones are silly and fun.

My advice is to find a woman from a non-Western country. Asian countries, Eastern Europe. Anywhere but here. Maybe 1 in 10,000 here is a good catch.

But those other countries. The men treat women like dirt, they die early, they’re terrible. Globally women know American men are the best husbands and American women are the worst wives. Foreign women keep themselves up, they work hard, love kids and want them, and are just better wives across the board.

You spend time with your wife and your kids mostly. Don’t worry about what other people might say or how they’ll just you. Who cares? People will expose their personality and their objectives if you listen carefully.

Good luck!


322 posted on 04/23/2017 10:57:44 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: caww

Well I have read this thread with real sorrow, pain and sadness. January 5th I lost my Husband of 53 plus years, He was my Best Friend, I was 17 and he was 20 our Parents had to sign for us to get Married. After 3 years He was drafted and I followed him the first year, then Viet Nam. I moved home with Mom and Dad. He returned and We left the City and moved to a Rural area and there Had 2 wonderful Daughters, and 7 Wonderful Grandchildren of whom we adore. Our Daughters and their Husbands have been a Great strength to me since their Father Passed. So you see it is hard for me to understand the pain and sorrow Marriage has brought to so many, it really is a wonderful Joyous thing when you make God the head of your Home.


323 posted on 04/23/2017 11:00:29 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: easternsky

..”it is hard for me to understand the pain and sorrow Marriage has brought to so many, it really is a wonderful Joyous thing when you make God the head of your Home”....

Am sorry for your loss of such a great man you have loved.
I do believe the joy of marriage you speak of is only possible with God the head of the home.

It is often times the problem is two people marry that should not have married to begin with rather than divorce as the problem.


324 posted on 04/23/2017 11:05:05 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Thank You


325 posted on 04/23/2017 11:14:41 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: caww

>I do believe the joy of marriage you speak of is only possible with God the head of the home.

>It is often times the problem is two people marry that should not have married to begin with rather than divorce as the problem.

I disagree. My mother almost divorced my dad when I 8. She was calling all the shots in the house, bossing him around, and driving him out of the house with her nagging. My Dad turned to work to avoid family life. My mother was desperately unhappy and so was the entire family. Slowly over time my mother changed. She went from bossing my dad around to deferring to him, she stop herself when she realized she was nagging, and generally acting very submissive with him. Our entire family life turned around and become much happier.

Years later I asked my mother about that time and she said that one day she decided that she was going to put my father in charge. It wasn’t easily at first as everyone tells women to act strong, be in charge, ect but she said it felt much more natural. If you want a happy marriage the wife needs to submit and Obey to the Husband as the Husband submits and Obeys Christ. It doesn’t require matching personalities, or good match making, just acceptance and practicing the proper roles for man and wife.

Most marriages break up because the wife is in rebellion from her proper role and there are very few men who will ever give up a submission and obedient wife. They’re worth more than gold.


326 posted on 04/23/2017 11:20:21 PM PDT by RedWulf
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To: RedWulf

Understanding ‘why’ women rebel against this submission you speak of is necessary in understanding a womans framework.

Women have been bucking this since Geneisis when part of the curse on women was her desire would be to her husband and he would rule over her....Eve knew equality prior to that and we women still have this “need” which often expresses itself in the wrong ways.

And your forgetting something very significant....the Husband is called to ‘love’ his wife as Christ loves his own...A women will ‘never’ have a sense of jealousy when she feels ‘secure in her husbands love’...and it is up to him to create that security in her. If that’s not happening then no amount of submissiveness on her part is going to make a marriage work.


327 posted on 04/23/2017 11:46:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

>Understanding ‘why’ women rebel against this submission you speak of is necessary in understanding a womans framework.

Women rebel because they’re testing for strength. The problem for men is it’s no longer legal to rule over a woman in the traditional manner. Most men have to resort to being willing to leave if she doesn’t behavior properly which isn’t a good foundation for a marriage. The best solution to this issue is for the community of believers to reject women who rebel against their Husbands. Social pressure is very effective.


328 posted on 04/24/2017 12:08:37 AM PDT by RedWulf
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To: metmom

You appear to be a wise woman.


329 posted on 04/24/2017 12:15:54 AM PDT by Obadiah ("Juuuust a bit outside...")
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To: cherry

In a dispute/divorce the advantage in front of a judge is almost entirely with the woman, even if she makes most of the money. I say for a man who really wants to marry and is skittish of predatory American women, save up some air fare and go offshore. Find a wife in a third world NON MOSLEM country and bring her back, or if you have something to make a living there on, stay there. That said a cousin of mine was an AF colonel in Egypt during the Morsi insanity and a Christian family he was acquainted with begged him to marry their daughter because a moslem had claimed her and there was no way out of that for her unless she had an American to marry. So he married her. He had been divorced by a wife who got tired of being a military wife and had said he would never do it again. She is fabulous. He is retired and they live in Florida now. He is a happy man.


330 posted on 04/24/2017 1:55:39 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: cherry

In a dispute/divorce the advantage in front of a judge is almost entirely with the woman, even if she makes most of the money. I say for a man who really wants to marry and is skittish of predatory American women, save up some air fare and go offshore. Find a wife in a third world NON MOSLEM country and bring her back, or if you have something to make a living there on, stay there. That said a cousin of mine was an AF colonel in Egypt during the Morsi insanity and a Christian family he was acquainted with begged him to marry their daughter because a moslem had claimed her and there was no way out of that for her unless she had an American to marry. So he married her. He had been divorced by a wife who got tired of being a military wife and had said he would never do it again. She is fabulous. He is retired and they live in Florida now. He is a happy man.


331 posted on 04/24/2017 1:58:33 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: cherry

Women pre 1990 didn’t use gutter language as normal conversation.


332 posted on 04/24/2017 2:05:13 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: ConservativeMind

Several of my cousins (10 brothers and 1 sister) have got their wives offshore. One has an Egyptian wife, one has a Korean wife and they have an English teaching school in Seoul. Another brother has a Canadian wife, well she’s almost a foreigner.


333 posted on 04/24/2017 2:08:18 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Secret Agent Man

I have studied a lot of radical feminist books. To be a real feminist you have to hold a low opinion of men. The female defines herself based on an illusion of superiority over men. They are abusive to men.

So, real feminists are lesbians and the heterosexual feminists are not hard core or real feminists, according to the radical cult. Wives and Breeders are often shunned from academics. Lesbianism is the height of feminism - the total rejection of men. They enjoy hurting men.


334 posted on 04/24/2017 2:11:39 AM PDT by SaraJohnson ( Whites being racially harassed and harmed by Leftist in power need to sue! It's pay day.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well, THIS woman has no use for women who use men.

And if you read my posts, you’ll see where I twice denounced the stereotypes of women and men on TV.

I won’t even watch TV any more, it disgusts me so much.


335 posted on 04/24/2017 2:12:10 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Wow, are you projecting!


336 posted on 04/24/2017 2:14:01 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Secret Agent Man
The dirty secret is that most women want men to lead. To be in charge. They generally are more secure and feel most supported and taken care of by a guy who is in charge and leads.

It's not a *dirty secret*. It's true.

And the problem is, the emasculation of man has taken its toll and men do not know how to be strong leaders any more and in a weird sort of way, women are, without being aware of it, demanding the men earn the right to lead, much like how kids will constantly challenge parents to show who's in charge, IOW, and when the parents aren't strong and wrongly give in to the kids according to the latest psychological theory in child raising, the kids are insecure and act out.

337 posted on 04/24/2017 2:19:55 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: TigerClaws
There’s basically a War on Men in this country perpetrated by the left. We do 60%+ more time for the same crime than women. Just think of the guy teacher/young girl vs. woman teacher/young guy sex stories we keep seeing. Women get a slap on the rest. Men have the F.B.I. hunting them down and get federal jail time. Double standards at every level.

OTOH, the men contribute to that problem when they start in with the *guilty/not guilty* in regard to her looks, and then make all kinds of comments about how lucky the boy was and *where were teachers like that when I was young?*.

338 posted on 04/24/2017 2:28:13 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: DesertRhino
You types always explain how its hard and takes hard work. Maybe you need to focus on it being a source of joy for a man, and not some labor he needs to endure.

And the man doesn't have to work on being a source of joy for the woman and not be labor she has to endure?

What’s your hangup that you have some weirdo right to American men?

After I said someone has the right to look where ever they want you come out with this?

I see your problem.

339 posted on 04/24/2017 2:31:47 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: TigerClaws
They sleep around in their 20s and then look for a meal ticket in their 30s.

Says the guy who *had his fun when he was young*.

So if YOU had no problem sleeping around and marrying in your 30's when you wanted to have kids (settle down), why criticize women for the same thing?

That is the kind of double standard women are rebelling against.

If it's good enough for you, why isn't it good enough for women?

Why are men not willing to give women what they demand from women?

340 posted on 04/24/2017 2:36:49 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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