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Men not marrying? How deep does "the problem" go?
YouTube ^ | March 15, 2012 | Karen Straughan

Posted on 04/23/2017 3:45:20 PM PDT by grundle

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: feminism; genderwars; marriage; mgtow
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To: metmom

Huh?

Men’s rights groups are against the physical abuse of wives and husbands.

This is FR. It’s a place where you learn things. See the documentary. Get informed.


221 posted on 04/23/2017 8:06:11 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Secret Agent Man

What’s sad is, I think I could love a guy the way he wants to be loved. I could be a great partner. But my first husband was fine when we had no kids, though super jealous and I let him control me too much, but when the babe was born suddenly he remembered how much he hated mothers, and now that included me. And my second “disappeared” from me and the kids into a rather convenient mental illness. So no one appreciated my gifts. And now I don’t see the point in marriage. Never asked any alimony, don’t even get child support. I respect a man’s down time and his own time as I do my own, and I LOVE to have fun. But now I have too much responsibility to have any fun at all. But having three sons I despise man bashing. I hate it in women. Man bashing, husband-stressing wives make me sick. Sometes my own gender really bugs me, even though I have great women friends. Some women, lots of American women, play too many games.


222 posted on 04/23/2017 8:07:12 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: metmom

>>>Anyone is entitled to look where ever they want for a spouse, but the same question could be posed about women looking for manly foreign men.

And what’s the purpose for finding a foreign women?

Cause you can live how you want and she won’t give you any grief over it and she’ll wait on you hand and foot?<<<

I have done that. And in the process of traveling to visit several times I have met other guys in the terminal going for the same reason as I was. Now that she is here, she got plugged into the local community of women from her home and they are all married to American men.

Based on chatting with many men who did the same as me, most flat out reject marriage with an American woman. Some were divorced, some were never married. So the decision to go foreign was simply to get married at all. The alternative was to live life as a bachelor.

As to why they prefer foreign women, that is easy to answer. Their wives are like my own. They are modest, almost all are or were in their youth, very pretty, they are kind and the men seem content with their choice. The women are also feminine. They have long hair, hour glass waistlines, they are good homemakers, they love children and the husbands seem to be satisfied with their life.

Metmom let me put it another way. If you are a guy and you watch the old TV shows and say, I’d like a woman like June Cleaver, you know you can’t. It’s 2017 and these women really don’t exist in any great number. But if you are willing to make the sacrifice of a language/cultural barrier, you can. In fact there are more woman available to choose from than there are willing men to take them.


223 posted on 04/23/2017 8:08:12 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: metmom
And what is men’s excuse? For all the whining and b!+ching about how women look as they age, did you’all men take a good hard look in the mirror lately?

Geez, Mom, take a breath. In through the nose, out through the mouth.

You don't think we men are aware of the faults of our gender? Sheesh, we joke about them all the time here. Most of us freely admit to our shortcomings, and thank our lucky stars for the wonderful women who put up with us.

The question at hand, though, is, why are American men avoiding marriage? I think the men on the thread have nailed most of the primary reasons why this is happening.

Perhaps you're offended by some of the frank and candid replies here. I understand. They're mostly from men's perspectives, which are going to differ from most women's.

If you're going to yell at men for being honest, they're just going to clam up and shut you out. Same as in real life.

224 posted on 04/23/2017 8:08:39 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: central_va

Women are certainly shredded for seeing men as a means to a comfortable life, just for their money and having the men wait on them hand and foot.

I’m not wrong with that observation.


225 posted on 04/23/2017 8:09:55 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Newbomb Turk

That’s horrible! You and I must both be super lucky at cards! ;) (see my previous)


226 posted on 04/23/2017 8:11:31 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: BJ1
A woman who sleeps around is defiled.

And men wonder why feminism took hold.

It's OK for men to sleep around before marriage but the woman has to be pure cause he doesn't want used goods?

Sex before marriage defiles a man as well. A woman is just as entitled to marry a pure man, a virgin, as he is and the double standard men have is a LARGE part of the problem between men and women.

Women are not blind to it or stupid. They just decided they didn't want to put up with it any more.

227 posted on 04/23/2017 8:13:11 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: central_va

I can see.

You don’t want any accountability for yourself.

Well if not being willing to put up with hypocrisy is a quality you don’t want in a woman, then I am NOT the one for you, thankfully cause I don’t like hypocrites.


228 posted on 04/23/2017 8:14:58 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Women are certainly shredded for seeing men as a means to a comfortable life, just for their money and having the men wait on them hand and foot.

I'm not sure what you are saying. A gold digger and her male ATM machine can have a good life if that is what they want. Men know this. The trick is to be rich enough and a good prenupt.

229 posted on 04/23/2017 8:15:04 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: gaijin

Sooooooo sad. I’m sorry for your friend. Makes me embarrassed to be a woman when I hear this. We aren’t all like that.


230 posted on 04/23/2017 8:15:13 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: metmom

I used to love the “I Dream Of Jeanie” TV show. When Jeanie said “Yes Master” I really liked that.


231 posted on 04/23/2017 8:16:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BJ1
Read some dating profiles from women in their 30s. They yap about their careers. They yap about their exotic vacations to some far point on the globe. They yap about their education. What they didn’t do very often imho, is sell themselves on why they would be an asset to a guy’s life.

And what would your reaction be about women who complained that men don't talk about what kind of asset they would be for a woman?

But women bragging about their careers and education probably will be more argumentative than those that do not. Just my opinion.

Can't have any of that women standing up for herself stuff, eh?

232 posted on 04/23/2017 8:17:38 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: central_va
It is a backlash against western feminist BS. Men are problem solvers, that is their Islamic solution to the problem of feminism.

Really? You mean that hijabs, wife beating, and FGM are recent innovations in response to feminism?

Got any proof for that claim?

Sounds kind of like an extreme response, doesn't it?

Or are you OK with it?

233 posted on 04/23/2017 8:19:38 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: af_vet_1981

And that, Sir, is what I believe makes my wife and I great marriage partners.


234 posted on 04/23/2017 8:21:07 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: central_va
The perverted aspect of this is that in Europe the women are letting in the Muslims to eventually subjugate them and that is because Western Euro fag men have been so neutered they can't reclaim what was once theirs.. Subconsciously women want their traditional roles back and they will get it in spades with their imported Muslim misogynists. Women are a perverted lot.

It's women's fault, it's women's fault, it's women's fault.....

Sounds like an emasculated man response, blame-shifting.

235 posted on 04/23/2017 8:21:07 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: cherry

I don’t have any idea of the numbers, but a lot of women are treated badly and a lot of men are also treated badly.


236 posted on 04/23/2017 8:23:42 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: grundle

Married a girl from a TRADITIONAL FAMILY, from halfway around the planet. Never saw a reason to consider an American girl for something that serious.


237 posted on 04/23/2017 8:23:43 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: TigerClaws

That’s what I saw represented on FR about the Red Pill by another poster, whose account was banned and his posts deleted by the mods for what he advocated.

And yes, it was for roughing her up and basically raping her and he went on about how she went to sleep afterwards with a smile on her face.


238 posted on 04/23/2017 8:23:44 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Even though the West will eventually have to exterminate the Muslims you have to admit they have a pretty good handle on keeping the excesses of feminism in check.


239 posted on 04/23/2017 8:24:12 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rbg81

“Yes, there are still some that are very good looking, but they are definitely in the minority.”

Nonsense,where on earth have you been hanging out?

There are more good looking college girls than there are not-so - good -looking ones.

The behavior has certainly changed but they still have youth in their favor as far as looks go.

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240 posted on 04/23/2017 8:24:32 PM PDT by Mears
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