Posted on 04/13/2017 5:35:36 PM PDT by bogusname
Michaella Surat, 22, said she was left 'humiliated' when Fort Collins police officers violently threw her to the ground outside Bondi Beach Bar on April 6. 'All the bones were shattered in my face. I was just so humiliated because people were watching me.
That line of thinking seems logical to the ignorant and inexperienced. When you are dealing with a man and a women comes to his defense, yes it can seriously put you in danger. Under such circumstances she must be subdued immediately. The Officer was there to deal with the hostile male.
Maybe we should get a definitive answer to the first part before initiating Stage 2.
I’ll give you the same answer I gave to sky dancer (the other uninformed and inexperienced whiner.
That line of thinking seems logical to the ignorant and inexperienced. When you are dealing with a man and a women comes to his defense, yes it can seriously put you in danger. Under such circumstances she must be subdued immediately. The Officer was there to deal with the hostile male.
She was skinny, drunk, and wearing high-heeled platform shoes - she probably just suddenly went down a bit unexpectedly fast/hard in the tussle. She went down like a log, not even trying to catch herself.
You never know how somebody will take a blow. One guy will get hit in the head with a bat and keep fighting, and another’s jaw will break from a slap. She was resisting the cop frontally, but apparently had almost no strength or bracing laterally.
Bigger than him, shorter than her?????
Heeheeheee
Dayum!
couple of points:
In fairness to the police, they are taught to use overwhelming force once they get into a physical contest. It is a shock and awe technique meant to end physical resistance and avoid officer injury. if you are fighting against predatory folks, where a fight can become deadly, quick, it is kind of hard to fault the police.
Now if the guy went on training, then he was used to having a sparing partner who was likely 160 to 180 pounds. The force needed to dislodge someone that size who is nimble on his feet and a skinny drunk girl had a lot to do with how fast and hard she went down.
On the basis of above, a few questions come to mind:
1) The cop could have possibly broken her neck by that move or much more likely her jaw and in so doing caused her to lose some teeth. He was lucky neither death or disfiguring injury occurred. Do folks think that such a move is an appropriate amount of force to a young drunk girl flailing about?
2) If Yes, it was appropriate, do you feel he should have been prosecuted for said injuries if they occurred, up to and including secondary murder?
3) If you do not feel that it would be appropriate for the officer in question to be prosecuted if a severe disfiguring injury or death resulted, is it appropriate for the father to seek justice by other means not related to a court proceeding?
4) If the father is justified in seeking such retribution, would you convict the father for such a an action if on a jury?
I think the larger issue of this act and implications related to what could happen if worse occurred really dictate the acceptability of that Police SOP.
Yeah and felt bad for her because that looked like it really HURT.
I also tend to take a more ‘libertarian’ approach in some circumstances....but given the horrible societal/social ‘change’ (thanks BHO) in this country.....woman are increasingly violent. Evident on social media daily.
Most folks don’t seem to know what cops actually do every day. My nephew is a Chicago cop. Not a job I would sign up for.
To the contrary - he knows how to do it with vigor! That that that was necessarily the best procedure in this case...
Chicago? No, I wouldn’t either.
Note to drunks in fight: Try not to put your hands on the cops. They have been trained not to let it continue. Gradual escalation of a fight like you are used to is not in your future. Body slamming,, tasing, PR24, broken wrist, dislocated shoulder, dog bites requiring hospital treatment. This is your future.
Or, lean against the streetlight and look photogenic. The choice is entirely up to you.
Excessive force; that officer should face a jury.
lol
If most folks claim they haven't been drunk and done stupid things... they're lying. Luckily, most folks don't do stupid things to or in front of the police.
Once again, I will repeat that the number one tool in the arsenal of law enforcement is the support of the community. Regardless of the technical legal justification for slamming the girl, the image is bad and becomes one more bit of separation from a community that has already partially removed its support from the police.
All the get-what-you-deserve crap completely discards what a police officer is to the community - not just enforcement, but an ideal.
I remember watching, in another life in another time, a former girlfriend getting arrested for something involving a vehicle and alcohol. She attempted to strike the cop (as she had done to me more than once). He showed incredible restraint and just gathered her up, cuffed her, and carefully placed her in the back seat of his Crown Victoria.
He could have pulled her arms behind her and cuffed her.
The video shows her fighting the officer. You do that and you are going to get slammed down. You have to be totally stupid, drunk, or high to fight an officer and expect to walk away.
The video has enough whining, complaining, puling, and victim-play in it to last me for the next month. Daddy’s ponytail tells you all you need to know about her politics.
I’m impressed with her speed of healing, too. Must drink lots of milk for all those broken face bones to heal so quickly. No osteoporosis in this young thing.
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