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ACLU policy advocate: Don’t give guns to school police
guns.com ^ | April 3, 2017 | Andrew Shepperson

Posted on 04/04/2017 2:45:27 PM PDT by PROCON


The American Civil Liberties Union does not want school police to be armed.

In an opinion piece published by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, ACLU of Pennsylvania senior policy advocate Harold Jordan calls for the disarming of school police. The article has been posted on the ACLU’s website and also tweeted out by the organization.

School police are currently not armed in Pittsburgh, and Jordan and the ACLU are just fine with that.

“Having officers patrol the hallways with firearms sends a negative message to students,” Jordan writes. “It makes many students feel that they are being treated like suspects. It can have an intimidating presence and can contribute to negative attitudes about police, in general.”

Jordan’s argument comes after the Pittsburgh Federation of Teachers executive board adopted a resolution two years ago that argues for the arming of school police, as well as a recent Pittsburgh Post Gazette editorial that calls for the same.

Both the resolution and editorial note that Pittsburgh school police officers receive the same firearms training as municipal police and often are the first responders to dangerous situations. Having armed police in schools, they posit, would enhance school safety so long as proper oversight mechanisms were put in place.

However, Jordan argues that there “is no evidence that arming school officers increases overall safety or improves relationships within school communities.”

“Having an armed officer stationed in schools has neither prevented nor stopped “active shooter” incidents,” Jordan continues. “It did not at Columbine High School nor has it elsewhere. Thankfully, these tragic situations are still rare in schools.”

Jordan also notes that many other school districts, such as Philadelphia, do not have armed police in schools and instead “have focused on instituting policies and programs designed to reduce unnecessary student arrests, which have been cut in half in recent years.”

“Places of learning are not security zones or criminal justice institutions,” Jordan writes, “and they should not be staffed that way.”


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“Having officers patrol the hallways with firearms sends a negative message to students,” Jordan writes. “It makes many students feel that they are being treated like suspects.

No, rather the opposite. They feel safer knowing an armed professional is present to protect them.

The ACLU doesn't want American school children to be safe.

1 posted on 04/04/2017 2:45:27 PM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 04/04/2017 2:46:10 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON

I have an easy/fast rule in making up my mind on matters like this.

If the ACLU is against it. I’m for it. If they are for it - well, you know.


3 posted on 04/04/2017 2:49:06 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: PROCON

The ACLU is against any Americans including police having guns. They are concerned private or even police gun ownership will stand in the way of the glorious workers revolution which will unfortunately involve quite a bit of violence.


4 posted on 04/04/2017 2:51:22 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: PROCON
ACLU policy advocate: Let Criminals Shoot Your Children Don’t give guns to school police
5 posted on 04/04/2017 2:55:02 PM PDT by Zarro (Oh, we don't call them the "MSM" any longer; they are now the "Basket of Detestables")
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To: PROCON

I agree with the headline.

Security personnel should buy their own firearms.


6 posted on 04/04/2017 2:58:57 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: PROCON

I want ccw teachers in schools provided they want to carry, have a locking holster with strap, have additional training and understand their
responsibilities in an armed intruder situation, and have school provided insurance coverage.
Of course i think anyone with a ccw should be allowed to carry in schools, on school property, on federali property, basically anywhere that does not have permanent metal detectors.
the ACLU can KMA.


7 posted on 04/04/2017 3:05:52 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: PROCON

The Paris police found out how useful unarmed police officers are in a shooting situation.


8 posted on 04/04/2017 3:15:27 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Grimmy

Yeah, that’s not what the headline is suggesting.


9 posted on 04/04/2017 3:17:45 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: PROCON

Don’t give guns to school police ONLY.

Arm the students!


10 posted on 04/04/2017 3:19:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: PROCON

“The American Civil Liberties Union does not want school police to be armed.”

Yet those hypocrites insist on armed guards to protect their headquarters lobby at 125 Broad Street in New York City.


11 posted on 04/04/2017 3:20:56 PM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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ACLU needs to STFU ..... They are not welcome in my towns school.


12 posted on 04/04/2017 3:22:20 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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Aw come on, we can have some fun with them.

Ask them when they are ready to stand up for the students’ RKBA rights. That will be fun!


13 posted on 04/04/2017 3:29:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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I betcha we would never have had a Columbine shooting incident (or it would have been far smaller) had student RKBA been the practice at that school. Or for Sandy Hook, where the children were very small, at least the teachers.

Redneck students and teachers will come to the rescue. And the ACLU will absolutely loathe them. But force them to say it!


14 posted on 04/04/2017 3:34:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: PROCON

My high school, Butler Area School District, 35 miles North of Pittsburgh does have armed security. i believe that we were the first in the nation to arm school security.

No incidents. The school is “Quad A”, which is to say it is rather large and has had no problems.

Our district does require that armed security is comprised of former police officers.

This is just the ACLU $#!++ing into their hand, and throwing it against the wall to see if it will stick.

In Pennsylvania, especially Western Pennsylvania, most homes have more guns than windows.


15 posted on 04/04/2017 3:51:17 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: SoldierDad

I know.


16 posted on 04/04/2017 3:52:46 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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“Thankfully, these tragic situations are still rare in schools.”

Rare enough that posting armed guards isn’t needed, but such a threat that stripping Americans of their gun rights is. Got it.


17 posted on 04/04/2017 3:56:39 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: PROCON

18 posted on 04/04/2017 4:06:23 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Pretty sure , right after Columbine our small town and county authorized school staff from grounds keepers to and including superintendent with license to carry, to do so on school property.... as well a uniformed officer was assigned to the complex that includes, K-12.

As to the ACLU I really like what they are supposed to be doing, not what they are doing. No time or money to deal with they’re agenda driven bullshit !

Stay Safe !!!


19 posted on 04/04/2017 4:12:41 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: PROCON

Decent kids feel safer, while thugs feel less safe. As usual, the ACLU is speaking for the thugs in society.


20 posted on 04/04/2017 4:22:02 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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