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Busting the Gun myth: Stance
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 3/1/2017 | A van Loan

Posted on 03/01/2017 6:43:26 AM PST by w1n1

Tom McHale of Springfield Armory questioned Rob Leatham about stances while shooting. Many novices are confused with the stances that are taught such as: Isoceles, Weaver, Chapman and your own. What Rob explains and demonstrates has nothing to do with the stance that you use. What really matters are:

The main thing to really understand and practice is your balance while shooting on rapidly. Rob explains there should be a slight forward lean while shooting, how much depends on what caliber you're throwing down range.

Other key points are – that your hands and arms need to be rigid and your body position has to be balance so that it can't be pushed off center. Apply all of this while shooting. This is achieved (with a little practice) while leaning slightly forward while shooting. See Rob Leatham in action here.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: banglist; handguns; pistolshooting

1 posted on 03/01/2017 6:43:26 AM PST by w1n1
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To: w1n1

As long as I can remember I have used the Weaver stance. I used it even before I knew there was one. It just seemed the natural way to hold the gun to me.

Isosceles seems a bit awkward but maybe because I have become so used to the Weaver.


2 posted on 03/01/2017 6:48:54 AM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: yarddog

I have always used the Weaver, way back in the .45 days in the Army, but got used to doing Isosceles when they started doing a lot of shooting from the left corner of a building to the right corner of a building for training.


3 posted on 03/01/2017 7:41:55 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: w1n1

Isoceles and Weaver are good ... for two handed shooting.

Owniing both semi-autos and revolvers, there are differences that must be kept in mind.

Revolvers can be shot at odd angles of retention, without any finicky mechanics that sometimes crop up using sem-autos, depending on the caliber of choice.

The 1940’s USAR training film covers firing the 1911 one-handed.

The 1960’s FBI training film cover firing one-handed with a revolver.

IF, IF, all ‘you pistoleros’ out there, train with two-handed approaches all the time ... wha’ hoppen when yo’ don’ got but one hand tah use????? Wha’ hoppen if dah udder hand is dah one, huh? Kin yo’ do it?


4 posted on 03/01/2017 8:31:26 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: w1n1

Have always used the Weaver with a half camel toe tip.


5 posted on 03/01/2017 10:54:41 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: School of Rational Thought
camel toe ???

This could turn out to be an interesting thread....

6 posted on 03/01/2017 11:00:15 AM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: w1n1

There are two realities in gun fighting- practice and a lethal force encounter.

We practice presentation, tactics, marksmanship in varying manners so we can appreciate the fact that when the deal is for real and all the world becomes a blur of chaos, we have ingrained in our bodies and minds basic tasks and our training provides for a solution in a fast paced ever changing situation.

Bottom line- fight and move or die.


7 posted on 03/01/2017 11:02:02 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Terry L Smith

At an average of 18 feet, it don’t matter if your on your back with a fractured skull. You’ll get him.


8 posted on 03/01/2017 11:05:04 AM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

Yea, maybe. But just watch those Westerns from back in the 50’s.
They could outshoot a man with a rifle while shooting a single action colt off handed at 100+ yards!!!
I laugh every time those old movies are on.
Man with a pistol meets a man with a rifle, man with a pistol is a dead man.


9 posted on 03/01/2017 11:16:21 AM PST by 9422WMR (President Trump, I like the sound of that!)
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To: 9422WMR

One of the reasons I haven’t been to a Movie in 30 years is, How do four guys with 30 shot magazines go up against a guy with a 16 shot magazine pistol and all of the riflemen get killed?


10 posted on 03/01/2017 11:37:07 AM PST by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

It is in the script.


11 posted on 03/01/2017 11:39:59 AM PST by sport
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To: 9422WMR

Yea, maybe. But just watch those Westerns from back in the 50’s.
They could outshoot a man with a rifle while shooting a single action colt off handed at 100+ yards!!!
I laugh every time those old movies are on.
Man with a pistol meets a man with a rifle, man with a pistol is a dead man.


Kind like James Coburn in the opening to Waterhole #3


12 posted on 03/01/2017 4:44:58 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Terry L Smith

Since I shoot double duelist in SASS, my pistol time is 50/50. For serious social occasions I prefer a modified Weaver.


13 posted on 03/01/2017 4:55:41 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Dear tslim,

I salute you (double duelist SASS).

‘Back when’, I owned a nice repro 1860 Army model. Took abit to get that thumbcock on the bearing down.

I suggest there is one (two) model(s) of revolver meant to be one-handed ... snubby or a Fitz.


14 posted on 03/02/2017 4:18:01 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

One of my many gun regrets is passing on a parkerized Colt New Service in .44 Special that I could have had Fitzed.

PS: I’m a slow cowboy. If I hadn’t had an alias already, I’d probably be called “3 Mississippi” because that’s how long between shots I am. ;)


15 posted on 03/02/2017 4:28:30 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Dear TijerasSlim,

A fellow named “hickok45” on youtube has just put out a video on “Charter Arms bulldog”.

I like snubbies, but with my hands a .38 special is quite special enough for me.

Did you know what a “new York reload” is?
(it’s carrtying a 2nd snubby!!)


16 posted on 03/02/2017 4:47:45 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

A favorite of mine is the Smith 696. Hard to find, and brings a premium, but 3” K-frame in .44 Special... 5 shot. Not bad with proper grips and moderate loads.


17 posted on 03/02/2017 5:03:17 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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