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Speed or Accuracy?
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 12/9/2016 | J Hines

Posted on 12/09/2016 8:34:04 AM PST by w1n1

There are many gun enthusiasts out there that are on different platforms. One of the big question is, "Is the most important thing speed, or is it accuracy?" In this post Rob Leatham and Rob Pincus will discuss and answer this.

The main thing is finding that happy balance that you shoot fast enough without being too slow and be accurate. Both Rob will walk you through some timing drills to build your skills up to where you need to be.

You can have Both Speed & Accuracy

After several rounds of this timing drill, neither Rob's was faster than the other in reaction time. Both fired with the same speed on target. At the conclusion both Rob's confirmed that "It's about pulling the trigger instantaneously without moving". Does that mean you don’t learn the basic fundamentals, obviously you still do then you progress to faster trigger pull. Both Rob also confirms that most people don’t progress further due to instructors not passing on further skills development. See the full instruction here.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; targetshooting

1 posted on 12/09/2016 8:34:04 AM PST by w1n1
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To: w1n1

Yes, as much of both as one can accomplish. One can’t miss fast enough, and the aphorism “...one is only half a good as the best day at the range...” should be part of the training process.

KYPD


2 posted on 12/09/2016 8:42:24 AM PST by petro45acp (" It IS About Islam: exposing the truth about ISIS, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the caliphate" by Glenn Beck)
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To: w1n1

Bkmk


3 posted on 12/09/2016 8:48:07 AM PST by moovova
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To: petro45acp

Some speed, some accuracy, overwhelming firepower.


4 posted on 12/09/2016 8:48:45 AM PST by HARRY TUTTLE (Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less. R. E. Lee)
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To: w1n1

Pure Rob’bery ..... :o)

Speed and Accuracy was key reason I went back to 9mm 147gr Speer GDHP. The happy medium I sought for many years. Glock 19 or Sig P226. Perfection for my daily carry needs.

Good read.


5 posted on 12/09/2016 8:51:49 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: w1n1
Speed and accuracy are both good things, but, it is important to be aware of your surroundings so that speed isn't really a factor.

I highly recommend frequent practice. Be intimately familiar with your weapon, put at least several hundred rounds through it before you trust yourself with it enough to feel protected.

While you can't always anticipate a bad guy's actions you often have several hints of what could be going down momentarily. Be prepared and don't be surprised.

You can't always have much time, if someone is kicking down your door you should have plenty of time to be aiming at the door before they are through. If someone bursts into a store with guns blazing you should have been watching the door and been ready.

Know what is going on around you. It isn't hard, we do it while we drive or at least a good driver does. Be ready.

6 posted on 12/09/2016 8:52:47 AM PST by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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Wyatt Earp:

"When I say that I learned to take my time in a gunfight, I do not wish to be misunderstood, for the time to be taken was only that split fraction of a second that means the difference between deadly accuracy with a sixgun and a miss. It is hard to make this clear to a man who has never been in a gunfight. Perhaps I can best describe such time taking as going into action with the greatest speed of which a man's muscles are capable, but mentally unflustered by an urge to hurry or the need for complicated nervous and muscular actions which trick-shooting involves. Mentally deliberate, but muscularly faster than thought, is what I mean." (Emphasis added.)

7 posted on 12/09/2016 8:54:57 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: w1n1

Accuracy. One well placed shot is far better than a hundred shots that all missed.


8 posted on 12/09/2016 8:56:18 AM PST by MeganC (Hate crime: The heinous act of disagreeing with a liberal.)
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To: w1n1

Why not both?

Worlds Fastest Gun Slinger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TANC4VI8vF4


9 posted on 12/09/2016 9:09:20 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: w1n1

5 rules of a gun fight:

1) gun beats no gun
2) fast beats slow
3) a hit beats a miss
4) big holes beat small holes
5) two holes beat one hole

Getting a gun out and into the fight will often force the opponent to take cover.


10 posted on 12/09/2016 9:39:02 AM PST by taxcontrol
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I have yet to meet the shooting instructor who would not say shot placement is the most important aspect of shooting. When we practice we should use the tool we can handle with the most dependable presentation such that the first shot hits the intended target and has one or two more shots even more accurately placed on target. ... Learn to hit what you quickly perceive as your target. Then learn to do it faster by practicing until muscle memory makes your response 'automatic'.

BTW, I carry a .22 caliber tool everywhere I go. I practice hitting six inch objects at distances from seven yards to twenty-five yards with as fast a presentation on target as I can manage. The secret is front site focus ... even my home defense tools are set up with the light located forward on the tool such that the front site is illuminated at the edge of the beam too.

11 posted on 12/09/2016 9:55:20 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for spiritual discernment)
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To: w1n1

Get as much lead downrange as fast as possible. Putting their heads down is a good as a kill. Suppression is the goal.


12 posted on 12/09/2016 10:00:01 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: MHGinTN

Firefights and gun battles, especially in the civilian world, happen very quickly. There have been many many stories of people who have not hit a thing while they were blasting away, but scared the attacker off. Granted this is not the best approach, but getting into the fight is the first step.

Realizing the threat, getting TO your gun and then getting OUT your gun are all required before the first shot is even fired. That is while rule #2, fast beats slow, is listed prior to #3 a hit beats a miss.

Also, understand that #2 is NOT about the time between shots, nor the speed of the bullet. It is about getting into the fight.

Rule 1 is what you do before the fight
Rule 2 is what you do to start a fight
Rule 3 is what you do to end a fight
Rules 4 and 5 are considerations for the fight


13 posted on 12/09/2016 10:10:44 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: central_va

Until YOU have to re-load.


14 posted on 12/09/2016 10:41:02 AM PST by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Delta 21

Well dueling could make a come back.


15 posted on 12/09/2016 10:42:26 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: w1n1

My grandfather (who was bootlegger, military, and then police, and had been in several gunfights) used to say that in a gun fight getting the first shot off quickly matters. He said that would rattle the opponent and often put an end to things even if you don’t hit, plus it would throw off the other guy’s aim.

After the first quick one, he said you should make sure every shot hits. Anyone still shooting back is not going to give up, and it’s important to take them down, one man per shot.


16 posted on 12/09/2016 11:08:41 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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If you hold the gun like this...

You get both!
17 posted on 12/09/2016 11:54:30 AM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: central_va

These are cool.

https://youtu.be/xHfBCBxdf2M

https://youtu.be/1pdukIYnK5c


18 posted on 12/09/2016 12:05:33 PM PST by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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