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Norgara Channeling Frank Herbert | 11/15/2016 | Nogara

Posted on 11/14/2016 2:38:27 PM PST by Nogara

Where there is an ecological niche it will be filled. Where there is a political vacuum, it will be filled. Where an exploit exists it waits, wants, to be filled.

There exists a concentration of wealth. Hundreds of Billions of Dollars at the disposal of an elite group of individuals. Leveraged, by virtue of control over governments and institutions, it translates into the trillions. This is fact.

There exists a concentration of information, which has reached, critical mass (i.e. enough information about enough people such that one can insure control over any one person or group). This is a fact, Trump's win not withstanding.

Combined the concentration of wealth and the concentration of information, with the "will" to control, and you have what I call the "singularity" (global government) though other people define it otherwise. Environmental niche meets exploit.

Trump was, perhaps, nothing but a pause button. Global government, that singularity, is almost, but not quite, an inevitability.

Trump, if you are about the America I grew up with and honor - your first executive exercise of power or legislative mandate- "No person's data is to be kept by any company, governmental agency, or entity for more than a (fill in the blank) without the express consent of the individual". Without this or its equivalent, freedom is just a word, and in reality and in practice, does not/will not exist.


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Where there is an ecological niche it will be filled. Where there is a political vacuum, it will be filled. Where an exploit exists it waits, wants, to be filled.

There exists a concentration of wealth. Hundreds of Billions of Dollars at the disposal of an elite group of individuals. Leveraged, by virtue of control over governments and institutions, it translates into the trillions. This is fact.

There exists a concentration of information, which has reached, critical mass (i.e. enough information about enough people such that one can insure control over any one person or group). This is a fact, Trump's win not withstanding.

Combined the concentration of wealth and the concentration of information, with the "will" to control, and you have what I call the "singularity" (global government) though other people define it otherwise. Environmental niche meets exploit.

Trump was, perhaps, nothing but a pause button. Global government, that singularity, is almost, but not quite, an inevitability.

Trump, if you are about the America I grew up with and honor - your first executive exercise of power or legislative mandate- "No person's data is to be kept by any company, governmental agency, or entity for more than a (fill in the blank) without the express consent of the individual". Without this or its equivalent, freedom is just a word, and in reality and in practice, does not/will not exist.

1 posted on 11/14/2016 2:38:27 PM PST by Nogara
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To: Nogara

That would be nice, but then all we’ll get is the privacy agreements that we are stuck signing with every company we do business with will force us to agree to let them keep our info or else we don’t get a bank account, a credit card, a household appliance, a car, a loan, a house, etc., etc.

Sorry to be so pessimistic. I’d love to see a law with some teeth in it.

The other thing I have learned about watching even the minions in government operate is that a law preventing someone from looking at private data is almost never enforced. You can be almost 100% sure that if your neighbor or your brother-in-law, or whoever has access to your data, they will check you out.


2 posted on 11/14/2016 2:48:12 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Nogara

What has been seen cannot be unseen, what has been said cannot be unsaid, what can be heard cannot be unheard.

The only thing that can be done is to kill the offended, or to kill those that saw, said or heard.

Information gathered by this government will NEVER disappear or be completely controlled. Even if the President himself demand to see the repositories and witness their destruction that data would have already be moved to a safe haven he knows nothing about.


3 posted on 11/14/2016 2:51:28 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Nogara
There are two foundations on which this rant stands.
If either of the two is false, then the rant is utter and complete drivel.

Foundational assumption number one: There are no people who know, understand, and will implement the teachings of Sun Tsu, Carl Von Clausewitz, and Alexadre Solzhenitsyn on how to counter this.

Foundational assumption number two: There is no God who decides what will be permitted in his creation.


The cool has said in his heart: “There is no God.”

4 posted on 11/14/2016 3:05:29 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: MrEdd

Thank you for your reply to this utter driveling rant. I should have know better than to opine without specific reference. But, leaving it open, (the ambiguity of the post), seemed a way to weed in the thinkers who just might dispel my worst fears by way of counter.

And, just my take, but, Sun Tsu, Carl Von Clausewitz, and Alexadre Solzhenitsyn, wouldn’t get it. Perhaps Sun Tsu, [a leader must be] “... capable of comprehending “unfathomable plans”. See Chapter 11, The Art of War. Anyway, these great thinkers, did not deal with this same reality which relates, in an odd way, to your reference to God. God, in a way, is he who, sees all, hears all, knows all, and can penalize those who stray. In this regard, God is here. See my last post regarding the control of personal information.
How would Sun Tsu, Carl Von Clausewitz, and Alexadre Solzhenitsyn deal with such an adversary or subject?
Thx for the reply


5 posted on 11/16/2016 9:30:07 AM PST by Nogara
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To: Gaffer

Your statements/axioms are irreproachable.

But, while one cannot stop all crime, one can, by virtue of laws, make the commission of a crime much less likely. Make the price of the use of personal information of the type we are talking about, extremely expensive, jail/fines/etc.., and the use of same will diminish.

Yes, the cat is out of the bag, so to speak.

Thanks for the reply.


6 posted on 11/16/2016 9:36:31 AM PST by Nogara
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To: generally

Maybe Trump changes this. Because, I just don’t know where we/society goes from here if your every action is known to all, or worse yet, a select few who are immune to laws and penalties and are quite willing to exploit your personal information to advance their self interests.

Thanks for the reply.


7 posted on 11/16/2016 9:40:09 AM PST by Nogara
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To: Nogara

>> a select few

I think those are the key words.


8 posted on 11/16/2016 11:48:07 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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