Kasich opposes religious freedom

Thinklets ^ | 2-23-16 | Elena Ives

[Ivy-vine]

Presidential candidate, John Kasich has weighed in on the Oregon bakers who were driven out of business and fined $135,000 because they declined to bake the cake for a gay wedding. This is what he said:

“I think frankly, our churches should not be forced to do anything that’s not consistent with them. But if you’re a cupcake maker and somebody wants a cupcake, make them a cupcake, Let’s not have a big lawsuit or argument over all this stuff — move on. The next thing, you know, they might be saying, if you’re divorced you shouldn’t get a cupcake.”

“Make them the cupcake?” Really? Is that an order King Kasich? Because I thought we still had a Constitution which mandates that our elected officials stay out of our business.

This removes all doubt about Kasich being a conservative. But it confirms how he views himself. As everybody’s daddy endowing all his patriarchal wisdom on the children who gather at his feet. It’s as if he’s wearing a creepy autocratic Father Knows Best mask.

“Make them the cupcake” indeed. Has he ever heard about the 13th Amendment? It prohibits a thing called “involuntary servitude.” That means that if someone doesn’t want to “make them the cupcake,” they don’t have to “make them the cupcake.”

It’s been in effect for over 200 years, and as far as I can see, divorced people still get to have cupcakes pretty much as often as they want.

Oh and speaking of that, if someone is having a divorce party, a Christian baker should be able to reasonably decline baking the cake for that, too. Even if King Kasich, Mr. Non Sequitur, feels he has been ordained with the authority from God knows where — because it’s not the Constitution he swore to uphold — to command that they “make” it.

It doesn’t matter that his logic is asinine. Bottom line is it’s none of his damn business. Being governor of a state does not give him the right to walk into the kitchens of bakeries and command the owners to “make” anything.

I know it’s been pretty beat up lately, but we still have the Constitution.

Get out, Kasich.

[greene66]

There’s no way in hell I’d ever vote for a ticket with Kasich on it, whether as prez or veep. And it’s things like this that have long since solidified that position for me.

I still recall his early debate performance where he’s giving himself a self-congratulatory pat on the back for attending a homo wedding ceremony. I don’t think I have the words to fully express how thoroughly repellent I find Kasich, along with any other GOP slugs that cowtow and prostrate themselves before the homo-fascists.

[Brian Griffin]

Faith - belief in something not verifiable scientifically

Religion - How one lives one’s life and how one relates to other people because of one’s spiritual beliefs

A key to religion is the shunning of those who do not believe or observe the tenets.

[Brian Griffin]

“If a black guy goes into a restaurant and orders a cup of coffee and a doughnut and the restaurant owner refuses to serve the guy because of his ‘religious convictions’, that’s against the law in every state.”

As far as I know, no religion calls for the shunning of people based on skin color.

[Brian Griffin]

A Christian foundry owner has the right not to make a golden calf.

[cloudmountain]

Those have been over-ridden by nanny state laws. It’s no longer a free country in many states.

I agree with you. The socialist states are especially evident where everyone is the same, so to speak: Japan, Sweden, well, most of Europe, China. WE are the ones who came together, a "mongrel" nation. "Mongrels" are OFTEN the smartest and toughest. No nanny state for the mongrels.

The people who MAKE something of themselves are the achievers. THEY will make the difference and refuse the handouts. They always have; always will.

[SkyDancer]

But to him if a mussie doesn’t want to do something well that’d be okay. Like.

[PIF]

He claims he’s really a democrat anyway.

[ButThreeLeftsDo]

Welcome To Free Republic!



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[Retain Mike]

Based on the letter below I wrote on the subject I would consider him clueless about our Constitution.

The 2015 gay marriage ruling completes a rewrite of our Constitution. The First Amendment says and used to mean, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press". In contrast the ruling on gay marriage helps illustrates how far the country has departed from first principles.

We are familiar with the term "speech or expression", which seems an innocuous expansion of the above amendment. However, "expression" enables a nearly unbounded multi-billion dollar pornography industry.

Justice Kennedy's majority opinion states,"The First Amendment ensures that religious organizations and persons are given proper protection as they seek to advocate and teach the principles that are so fulfilling and central to their lives and faith". Such language severely restricts religious freedom by happening to exclude "free exercise thereof". This oversight means one cannot exercise religious beliefs in business and personal lives even though the Constitution makes no distinction between individuals, organizations and churches.

Now we have a country in which a woman can choose to express herself in the adult film industry, but cannot own a bakery and choose to exercise her religious convictions by refusing to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple.

The Formal End to Judeo-Christian America
http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2015/06/30/the-formal-end-to-judeochristian-america-n2018986/page/full

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES GAY MARRIAGE
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

Bar the doors?
http://www.worldmag.com/2015/10/bar_the_doors

6/27/15 Wayne Cordeiro
https://www.facebook.com/pastorwaynecordeiro?fref=nf•;

[rhinohunter]

I’d vote for Yeb! before I’d vote for this sanctimonious twit.

[cloudmountain]

Back in the early ‘80’s I took a course in business law. I was taught that no one can be compelled to perform without a contract...and there is no contract until there is a meeting of the minds .

You know your law. What could even the smartest lawyer say to contravene this law?

[Impy]

Jonny Jonny go away, and don’t come back another day.

[Ivy-vine]

Hi, The laws protecting blacks from discrimination in public accommodations like food and lodging has been allowed under the commerce clause of the Constitution. The rationale being that the white supremacist mentality in the south would inhibit their ability to travel and affect interstate commerce. I suppose if you asked Kasich he’d tell you that he believes that reasoning can be extended to a lesbian couple who need a cake for their wedding. I think it’s a ridiculous comparison for many reasons, and I believe a lot of blacks would find the comparison insulting and demeaning to their struggle. Elena

[ReformationFan]

“President of the High School Student Council is about his upper limit.”

I think that would still be too important of an office for someone like Kasich.