Posted on 02/17/2016 7:33:02 AM PST by marktwain
Picture courtesy 12news.com
A house fire in Gilbert, Arizona, appears to be a rare case of a reloading accident getting out of hand. No one has determined the cause of the accident. I hope that smoking was not involved. One of the things forbidden to reloaders is to smoke while engaged in the hobby. The reloader suffered burns to his face and upper body. That is likely why the fire got out of hand. It would not have taken much to get the three vehicles out of the garage. Their loss was certainly a substantial percentage of the total loss of the house, which looks to be in the $200,000 range. From 12news.com
"As the ammo was kicking off, one actually hit me right in the face mask," Gilbert firefighter Mase Mattingly said. "It bounced up and landed right in my hand."
Fire officials said the ammunition did not have enough velocity to penetrate their protective gear.
Even so, the fire truck Mattingly rode in to the fire had several bullet strikes in the paint.
But when you consider the millions of reloaders in the United States, this sort of accident is extremely rare. This is the first one I have heard of in 50 years. Yes, I have been reloading that long.
Notice that the bullets did not have enough force to penetrate the fireman's protective gear, or even do more than chip paint on the fire trucks.
Ammunition fired in the open, not enclosed in a gun's chamber, discharges with such inefficiency that the projectile will not even penetrate an ordinary fiberboard shipping container panel at very close range. When not strongly and tightly confined, smokeless propellant powders burn relatively slowly and do not explode as we know they do when fired in a gun. Pressure within a cartridge case must build up to several thousand pounds per square inch to cause the cartridge to discharge as it does in a gun. Unless it is tightly confined, as in a gun chamber, no ammunition shell case will withstand the growing pressure of gases generated by burning propellant powder without bursting before the bullet or shot is expelled with violence or velocity.Casings propelled by this type of action would have to impact exposed skin or eyes to have any effect. Notice what appears to be a 12 gauge metal base and a 9 mm bullet lying together in the street. Of course, the photographer might have put them together for dramatic effect.
The point is that they have little velocity to do damage, and are not very dangerous. Gunpowder is somewhat less flammable than gasoline, and we do not worry about people having much more gasoline than people have, generally, gunpowder for reloading cartridges. Even 10 gallons of gasoline is equivalent to 70 pounds of gun powder, which is enough for 100,000 rounds of 9 mm or .45 ammunition.
The sides of the cases will blow out, the bullet goes one way, cases, the other, with very little power. I’ve seen it in a house fire before, and there are a lot of things to worry about besides this.
I have reloaded since I was 13, and I’ll be 59 in April, but I only shoot up about 6-7000 a year. I have about 20000 loaded rounds and 130 pounds of powder in the house. I’ve never had a safety issue from reloading.
For those not familiar with the 35 Whalen, it was a "wild Cat{er}," i.e., you had no choice but to reload for it. It's also known as a poor man's 375 H&H (ballistics's for the first 100 yards approx. the same.) More then big enough for any game in North America.
Please do.
The main thing is, NO DISTRACTIONS! A moment of inattention can beget all sorts of bad results.
Sporting Ammunition and the Fire Fighter: What Happens When Ammo Burns? - SAAMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SlOXowwC4c
Separate the raw materials storage area from the processing area? Only have a limited amount of hazardous materials in the production space sufficient for immediate use?
What if Jennifer Aniston walks by in a bikini? Is that not worth a disaster? heh
I’ve heard that a few times too. Such as don’t watch TV while reloading etc.
Obviously keep fire away from flammables too?
That would make sense. I know some systems have the powder feeder right on the reloader itself, but the rest of the cans or containers could probably be elsewhere.
I’m thinking if a person doesn’t have a lick of common sense though, that it wouldn’t matter, accidents will happen.
Whelen.
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