Geronimo died on this day in 1909 - here's why we yell his name when we jump out of planes

VA Viper ^ | 02/17/2016 | HarpyGoddess

[harpygoddess]

February 17th is the anniversary of the death in 1909 of that legendary Chiricahua Apache chieftain, Geronimo (born ca. 1829), whose actual Indian name was Goyathlay ("One Who Yawns"). The name by which Geronimo is remembered was supposedly bestowed on him by a detachment of Mexican soldiers so stunned by the ferocity of his resistance that they repeatedly invoked the name of St. Jerome against him.

[Paine in the Neck]

Michael Martin Murphey Geronimo's Cadillac

[nikos1121]

This was a common fact to the point that even Hollywood movies have depicted this.

All you have to do is google black slave owners and you’ll get plenty.

Sorry to shock you.

http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm

[nikos1121]

Exactly, so how are these idiots going to sort out reparations. Plus, my father is from Greece and came here in the early 1900s, and my mother’s parent the same.

IOWs why am I responsible for the hideous things done to these Americans?

I am sick to death of the liberals in this country that I could vomit.A good case in point is that liberal with the two middle fingers raised yesterday at the Trump rally.

These people are dangerous. The sooner the Secret Service understands this then we can sleep easier knowing Trump will be safe.

[Prospero]

Try the United States Census in 1860, wherein there were listed 5000 freemen in and around Charleston, South Carolina who tallied slaves in their possession for the purposes of reapportionment. These were counted as whole numbers, their chattel as two-thirds.

Insofar as so-called reparations are concerned, the trillions spent in the failed War on Poverty, resulting in the destruction of extended families, both 'white' and 'black.' are more than enough.

But there is a simple two word reply to those seeking race-based cash payment to make whole their long-dead ancestors: Barry Obama.

The idea that 'the federal government' owes reparations for slavery is ridiculous on every possible level. My great-grandfather owned a slave. These lying Socialists are welcome to take up the question of his liability with him. Blood guilt is a lie of the devil.

[nikos1121]

Joe Frazier?

[nikos1121]

It makes you sick to your stomach the amount of money spent for poverty and here we are worse than before, and globally there’s more poverty leading to wars.

The liberals are at fault here.

Trump hopefully will sort this out once and for all.

[Roman_War_Criminal]

No they aren’t. Those are Southern Indian Mexicans or Central Americans.

Even Northern Mexicans can’t stand their own “migrants”. I remember in the 90’s there was growing political talk of the Northern Mexican states (where all the major industry is) seceding from the Southern States. It went nowhere, but the resentful rift remains.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***the Mexican government use to pay a $25 bounty for an Apache scalp,***

Another thing you never hear is that many scalphunters hired by the Mexican Government were often Shawnee Indians.

I came upon that in several books many years ago.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***which is why some of the Indians there sided with the Confederacy***

A lot more did than people realize. Confederate agents were believed to be stirring up the tribes in the West. Only the Pawnee and Crow, along with a few of the very small tribes remained loyal to the North. The rest went on the warpath.

When Chivington, guided by African-American mountain man Jim Beckwourth, attacked the Cheyenne at Sand Creek, two men, believed to be Confederate agents were found there, George Bent, and his brother.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bent

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

According to Earl Stanley Gardner, who often traveled in Mexico and wrote several books about it, the last battle between wild Apache Indians and the Mexicans was in, believe it or not, 1939.

[TalonDJ]

“DO people understand that there were a large number of blacks in the South who owned slaves?”

Who do you think INVENTED slavery in north America? in VA a black farmer went to court to keep one of his indentured servants from leaving. This set the precedent for making indentured servants into outright slaves.

[nikos1121]

Why you telling this to me? Tell it to the guy that thinks I’m a liar.

[DiogenesLamp]

It makes you sick to your stomach the amount of money spent for poverty and here we are worse than before, and globally there's more poverty leading to wars.

Just as the Civil war was not fought to end Slavery, so too was the "War on Poverty" not fought to end poverty.

The "War on Poverty" was a clever political response by Lyndon Johnson to the fact that Republicans had succeeded in tossing out the primary means by which Democrats generally kept blacks from voting; The payment of Taxes.

By passing the 24th amendment, the Republicans thought they would gain about 10 million newly enfranchised voters who would vote Republican.

Lyndon Johnson saw what was happening and decided to flip the Black vote over to the Democrats by coming out in favor of a "War on Poverty." I.E. monetary payments and government services specifically targeting the dominant poor class which was 1960s era black society.

From 1964, to about 1972, the Black vote flipped overwhelmingly from Republican to Democrat, and it has effectively kept the Democrats in congress for about forty years. (Till 1994.)

Do not believe the propaganda. The "War on Poverty" was never about poverty. It was a cynical and evil ploy to use government money and resources to bribe a chunk of voters into voting Democrat, and nothing else.

And it has been a huge success from that perspective. From a National Economic perspective, it has been a horrible disaster, costing 21 trillion dollars so far, and enabling all sorts of family and cultural destroying rot to creep into society.

The Large Crime increase occurring around 1977 is the consequence of young boys growing up without fathers, a condition made common and problematic by government support for unwed mothers and the "free love" mindset of the 1960s.

But it did what it was designed to do. It kept the Democrats in power.

[Smokin' Joe]

Nope, different guy.

[nikos1121]

Of course it was.

All one has to do is look at the countries now that have jobs. They’re thriving.

The Free Market works. Our country has had bad politics for ever, going back to Bush Sr./Clinton years.

It’s shameful.

Trump is right. If you cut back on the waste and fraud there’s plenty of money left over for SS, medicaire, military etc.