They’ll have them here, too. Inside of a year is my guess.
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Approving of sexual perversion/corruption is now what is a virtue.
Being opposed to it is now considered unloving and phobic.
In all the back and forth in the aftermath of this decision, what I am NOT seeing is any effort from the homosexual community seeking to calm our fears of religious persecution, other than to say we’re making it up.
This is why this needed to be a legislative decision, where the opposing sides could have put safeguards into place in order to get enough votes for approval. As sloppy as our system is, there is that.
Ok, well ok..::.
Vote for obama again. (Ya, 3rd term...)
This persecution is coming to Israel. The secular State of Israel always apes the dominant secular nation-states in Western Civilization.
It's unlikely that there are a higher percentage of traditional Jews in Israel than there are traditional Christians in America, so political relief is unlikely.
He remarked that there would probably be similar attacks on the Baptists, because they're strict on this too.
there are a lot of ramifications of this that haven't been fully thought through.
The enemy is thataway.
When I heard the news, I immediately felt like a German Jew hearing about Hitler’s appointment to Chancellor, in 1933. I am dreading the future in a country that has clearly gone off the rails.
Unfortunately, Hassidic communities take some of the blame, since many voted Democrat in order to keep the welfare checks coming. Their rationale, a combination of selfishness & short-sightedness, was probably that the gays wouldn’t have anything to do with them anyway.
They will be proven tragically wrong. There will be the militant who has to make a statement & have a “frum” (Torah-observant) wedding, or put his/her/its kids into an Orthodox school. They will complain about being excluded from social or communal activities. I can imagine gay pride parades in Brooklyn neighborhoods (e.g. Lee Avenue in Williamsburgh, or Kingston Ave in Crown Heights), especially as many of them have already moved there.
Now all my life I have noticed something and wondered about it. People attack Catholic theology, Protestant theology, moslem theology, etc., but no anti-Semite ever attacks actual Jewish theology or religion or practice. Apparently there is no such thing as "Judaism" to be against; there is only "the Jews" and prejudice against them.
I have been around the block a time or two and was always puzzled to the point of madness as to why no Jewish spokesmen ever responded to higher criticism, attacks on the Torah and Na"KH as a savage and primitive document, denials of Biblical Jewish history, or the Jewish understanding of G-d and reality. All Jewish spokesmen always and only attacked ethnic prejudice against Jews, and the puzzling fact that all the "bigots" assumed the truth of the TaNa"KH (however imperfectly) while the "anti-bigots" all seemed to blame anti-Semitic prejudice on the influence of the Bible almost drove me out of my mind. I regarded the whole thing as crazy. I still do.
Well now we know why. Because Judaism doesn't count. Only Jews count, and they count only insofar as they can be used as an excuse to secularize the country (because the influence of Judaism is allegedly deadly to Jews).
This is the great mystery of Jewish liberalism, a liberalism that constantly boasts of immense pride in four thousand years of history but who never deal with anything beyond the past two millenia. The persecution of Jews in the pre-chrstian era can't be used to protect "gays," Jews, and Blacks from "the common enemy," so none of these things are ever mentioned. Who knows? Maybe the ancient pre-chrstian persecutors and mass murderers of Jews didn't count as "anti-Semites" at all but were fully justified because they were attacking people who practiced the religion upon which anti-Semitic chrstianity was based.
Maybe Judaism causes anti-Semitism. Maybe it deserves to be destroyed for that reason. (I hope a "/sarcasm" tag isn't necessary here).
Just think of it. When has any "Jewish activist" protested the blasphemous higher criticism of liberal universities (all of which have a large Orthodox Jewish student presence)? When has any "tireless fighter against anti-Semitism" ever responded to an attack on the veracity of the Torah by atheist liberals (who insisted on making chrstianity the punching bag for all the Hebrew Bible's "offensive" and "primitive" content??? Not only liberal Jews, but Orthodox Jews--even the so-called "Ultra-Orthodox"--have never felt the slightest compunction to join this debate. Instead the Torah, the Book of Joshua, the Megillah, Daniel, and Jonah are contemptuously referred to as "the chrstian bible" or even "the chrstian old testament" and Jews are assumed to be completely non-affected and unconcerned about the whole issue. Instead you have Judaism on one side and "the Jews" on the other. The ancient Biblical religion becomes less and less Jewish, more and more chrstian, and more and more responsible for anti-Semitism. You have Judaism on the Right and "the Jews" on the Left. And never the twain shall meet.
You have no idea how many questions this attitude of Nietzsche's has answered for me. No wonder the "official Jewish leadership" has no use for people like me, much less pro-Israel chrstians. We were drawn to Judaism by the Bible, not by the alleged historical role of "the Jews" to suffer at the hands of "religion" and eventually be invoked as the number one excuse for getting rid of it. The TaNa"KH is out. They aren't interested in anyone drawn to the beauty, antiquity, and Divinity of the actual Torah religion. They want people who have dreams about being part of the I.M. Peretz Workman's Circle or present for a dirty Lenny Bruce routine.
To be fair, Nietzsche isn't the only famous "philo-Semite" who hated the ancient religion of Israel. Two more--considered heroes by many Jews--were Thomas Jefferson and Mark Twain. Noble suffering Jews teaching the world by example that religion is poison is one thing. Burning bulls on an altar just because G-d said to do it is something else entirely.
I am a Noachide because of Moses and Pinechas and Joshua--not because I am inspired by the predicament of a generic "minority group" which is shared by all such minority groups. The Jews are different. The Jews are special. And they are so because of Judaism--the "primitive oriental despotism" Mark Twain so loathed (while praising suffering Jews to the skies) and not for any other reason.
I will never regard Jews as merely one more "minority group" in need of protection from "the same people" who "hate Blacks and gays." In fact, I derive the entirety of what right and wrong consist of from that primitive despotism--not any humanistic rational "ethic" that logically cannot and does not exist in a random, meaningless, and self-existent universe.
Fire away, all of you.