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Was toppling Libya all about the money?
Flopping Aces ^ | 05-19-15 | DrJohn

Posted on 05/19/2015 4:39:45 PM PDT by Starman417

if you break it

In 2011 Barack Obama led from behind a NATO coalition bent on removing Moammar Gaddafi from power in Libya. The removal and death of Gaddafi was, Obama put it, a warning to "iron fisted" rulers everywhere.

Syria, Iran and North Korea excepted, of course.

Over at Foreign Policy this was hailed as a huge success.

"Leading from behind" is an important element of this doctrine. It is no insult to lead but let others feel they too are architects of a plan, to lead without making others feel you are bullying, to lead but do so in a way in which risks and other burdens are shared. Libya is a test case for this approach. It too started ugly and there are many lessons to be learned by NATO and the United States about how to do this better. Our communications around the time of undertaking the involvement were also handled in a ham-fisted manner. No matter. Most of that will be forgotten now. Outcomes matter most and the outcome here has been low-cost and high-reward.

Both Obama and Hillary Clinton ignored the Pottery Barn rule because he's the smartest man in the universe- just ask him. Obama and Hillary created a vacuum. Nature abhors a vacuum and so does ISIS.

What has become of Libya? It is now a safe haven and support base for ISIS, largely because Obama considered ISIS to be the JV. Libya is now a central hub for human and arms trafficking. Back in 2012 the military warned about arms shipments and the growth of ISIS.

The DIA report, which was reviewed by Fox News, was obtained through a federal lawsuit by conservative watchdog Judicial Watch. Documents from the lawsuit also reveal a host of new details about events leading up to the 2012 Benghazi terror attack -- and how the movement of weapons from Libya to Syria fueled the violence there.

The report on the growing threat posed by what is now known as the Islamic State was sent on Aug. 5, 2012.

The report warned the continued deterioration of security conditions would have "dire consequences on the Iraqi situation," and huge benefits for ISIS -- which grew out of Al Qaeda in Iraq.

"This creates the ideal atmosphere for AQI (Al Qaeda in Iraq) to return to its old pockets in Mosul and Ramadi," the document states, adding "ISI (Islamic State of Iraq) could also declare an Islamic state through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria, which will create grave danger in regards to unifying Iraq and the protection of its territory."

The WSJ:

In recent months, U.S. military officials said, Islamic State has solidified its foothold in Libya as it searches for ways to capitalize on rising popularity among extremist groups around the world.

“ISIL now has an operational presence in Libya, and they have aspirations to make Libya their African hub,” said one U.S. military official, using an acronym for the group. “Libya is part of their terror map now.”

Obama and Hillary seemed not to be paying attention to this. It seems, though, that they were paying attention to something else- money- helping their pals cash in on Libya. There are some startling revelations that have come to light today in the NY Times. They involve Sid Blumenthal:

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1 posted on 05/19/2015 4:39:45 PM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Everything this country does is all about getting the money from the middle class and putting it in the pockets of the rulers of the oligarchy.


2 posted on 05/19/2015 4:42:52 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (In an Oligarchy, the serfs don't count.)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

Up until we invaded we were giving them money.


3 posted on 05/19/2015 4:50:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Starman417
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That is what's all about the money, pimp.

4 posted on 05/19/2015 4:51:38 PM PDT by humblegunner (NOW with even more AWESOMENESS)
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To: Starman417

Gold and guns.

143 tons of gold
Diamonds

The weapons we shipped there and through there to Syrian and S. of the Sahara are worth Idon’tknowwhat.

And Gaddafi’s plan to accept only gold for his berri crude. http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/markets/item/4630-gadhafi-s-gold-money-plan-would-have-devastated-dollar


5 posted on 05/19/2015 4:58:21 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: Starman417

Kadaffi was involved with the black muslim street gang that controlled the community that Obama organized also connected thru MO and JJ - a relative of Mo and FerretCON
Kadaffi was involved in finance of a domestic terrorist plot

Not sure which post there are several giving history of Gang beginning 741 and explaining the connection.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2151323/posts?q=1&;page=741


6 posted on 05/19/2015 5:01:32 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?)
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To: Starman417

I think it was all about the jihad.


7 posted on 05/19/2015 5:05:18 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: combat_boots; maggief; WildHighlander57; stephenjohnbanker

Good information. Any connection to blumemthals business plan?


8 posted on 05/19/2015 5:05:20 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?)
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To: hoosiermama

Well, gold and diamonds have wound up in S Africa. Someone had to arrange that.

http://www.mining.com/gaddafis-gold-diamond-billions-found-in-south-africa-73433/


9 posted on 05/19/2015 5:10:43 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

Whose names are on the accounts ? Would be helpful to know


10 posted on 05/19/2015 5:14:39 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?)
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To: Starman417

Toppling Libya was all about clearing a path for the hardcore Islamists like ISIS (or Iran). That’s what Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt (attempted), Syria, Yemen are all about too..


11 posted on 05/19/2015 5:16:24 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

babylon the whore


12 posted on 05/19/2015 5:36:15 PM PDT by aces
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To: hoosiermama

Don’t know. But 143 tons is a lot of gold to move.


13 posted on 05/19/2015 5:52:25 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

What type of vehicles and how many would be needed. It would certainly not be something easy to hide


14 posted on 05/19/2015 5:56:12 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?)
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To: Liz

Just realized. I left you off the list.
Note combat boots information regarding the gold and diamonds. Would they fit in the hold of an officials plane?


15 posted on 05/19/2015 6:10:47 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?)
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To: combat_boots

Remember, Germany was wanting their gold that the US was storing, except the US couldn’t come up with it! Maybe we sent the gold from Libya to Germany to settle the obligation.


16 posted on 05/19/2015 6:23:41 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Paving the way for the Caliphate and also the money.

Win-Win for them.


17 posted on 05/19/2015 6:36:23 PM PDT by crusher2013
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To: combat_boots; hoosiermama

BTT!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3152509/posts

Benghazi: Op Zero Footprint – US & Allies Freak Over Gaddafi Demand for Gold for Oil – End Is Near


18 posted on 05/19/2015 6:38:03 PM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief; combat_boots

The other day GOUTY was on fir just a blurb. He mention there were so many questions : why were they in BENGHAZI?
Was just one. All of his time seems to be tied up with the search of the D___m eMails. squirrel?!?

Hope he doesn’t get distracted!
Always follow the money! In this case the gold and diamonds!
What exactly was BLUMENTHAL business plan. Kelly Files just said most of the information Sid sent Hill was not accurate. Were they talking in a pre determined code?

Now I’m distracted. Pieces need to fall in place and nothing is moving


19 posted on 05/19/2015 7:10:03 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now?)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...

Benghazi ping.

Let Republicanprofessor know if you want on or off this ping list.


20 posted on 05/20/2015 3:28:36 AM PDT by Republicanprofessor
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