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Canada: Man Killed by Bear in British Columbia
Gun Watch ^ | 14 May, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 05/16/2015 1:05:46 PM PDT by marktwain

Picture from From facebook.com/wardho Ward and Jami  

A young Canadian was killed in what appears to be a predatory black bear attack in British Columbia, near Mckenzie, Canada.  From vancouverson.com:

O'Connor slept outdoors Saturday night while his fiancée slept in their motorhome. After O'Connor's fiancée woke up Sunday she exited the motorhome, realized something was wrong and went to get help, said McLintock, in a news release.

When RCMP and conservation officers arrived, they shot and killed one lone wolf and one male black bear that was about 300 pounds in weight.

  300 pound black bear in Northern Wisconsin

I did not find any mention of hunting or shooting from the couples facebook pages, so it seems likely that they did not have any firearms with them when the attack occurred.    A couple of days before the attack, the young woman posted a video on facebook showing a solitary wolf visiting their campsite. 


The firepit that the wolf is sniffing around may be where Ward O'connor fell asleep.  The video was taken from the couple's motorhome.  A visitor on facebook describes it as a van, so it is probably one of the smaller models.   A commenter on the site sent an eerily prescient message.   From facebook/jamiwallace:
Gabrielle Louisa Parker On my, what a scary and exciting experience. you guys have any weapons for protection?

The morning after the attack, Ward's fiancée, Jami Wallace, found evidence of an attack.   She followed a blood trail from the campsite, found the body, then returned to get help.    Ward's father rushed to the campsite, but could not get near the body because the bear was guarding its kill.  From cbc.ca:
Danny O'Connor rushed to the campground and started searching through the bush for his son.
"I wanted to get out there and see if I could save him," he said.
"When I got there the bear was there," standing over his son's body, he said. "I couldn't go closer."
It takes a brave man to rush to the scene of a bear attack, unarmed.   With Canadian gun laws, it is likely that he was unable to borrow a gun from a neighbor.   We can never know if a firearm could have been used to save Ward.   The attack may have been so sudden as to prevent any resistance.  Ms. Wallace has not mentioned that she heard any commotion in the night.

If Ward had carried a handgun, virtually impossible under Canadian law, he might have been able to save himself, as happened with an Arizona camper in 2002.  From thefiringline.com:
"SENECA LAKE, Ariz. — A man out camping with his brother woke up with one heck of a headache, only to discover that a bear was biting him in the head.

Thanks to his quick reactions — and to the handgun he was carrying — Rodney Black, 51, will be OK


Black and his brother were sleeping at their campsite at Seneca Lake, Ariz., when Black said he felt an intense pain in his head. He said the next thing he knew, he was on the ground, blood was gushing everywhere and he couldn't see a thing.


His said his brother screamed out "Bear!” and he managed to get out his handgun and shoot the animal dead.


"I don't know where I hit him," Black told the Arizona Republic. "He went down on the first shot and I emptied my revolver into him. I knew that I needed to make that first shot, or I was in more trouble.

After officers arrived, they shot a lone wolf before they discovered the black bear.  It is likely that the wolf was the one in the video.   They shot the 300 pound bear a little later.   Subsequent investigation showed that the attacking animal was a bear.

Bears are hungry this time of year; and a sleeping human smells a lot like an easy meal.

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TOPICS: Government; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; bearattack; bears; britishcolumbia; canada; maul; wildlife
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It is not *quite* impossible to obtain a permit to carry around a pistol in Canada. There are three ways that I know of:

1. Have a verifiable, eminent threat against your life never heard of one being issued, but it is in the law)

2. Have it issued as part of a trapping consession.

3. Have it issued for use as an official pest control permit (I met a Canadian who had that; he said he was the only one in Canada that he knew of.

1 posted on 05/16/2015 1:05:46 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The need for Swede

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3290417/posts


2 posted on 05/16/2015 1:09:20 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: marktwain

This explains Canadian gun laws.

http://www.howtogetagun.ca/


3 posted on 05/16/2015 1:21:58 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: marktwain; SJackson

Outdoors ping!


4 posted on 05/16/2015 1:25:08 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Norm Lenhart

The Canadian did make himself look big.
The bear just thought “More to eat!”


5 posted on 05/16/2015 1:31:40 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Norm Lenhart

Or if you’re a badazz FReeper, you just kill it with a knife.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670661/posts


6 posted on 05/16/2015 1:51:03 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: marktwain

IF he had a handgun, he might have survived, but not likely. It sounds like it was the middle of the night and he was asleep. His fiancée only discovered him missing in the AM, so she didn’t hear a struggle. In bear country, he should have been sleeping inside.

Any time I go into the mountains, I carry ‘bear bangers’ and also bear spray as a last resort. Even the TransAlta Hydro boys, who maintain all the isolated hydro facilities in ‘K-Country’, are not allowed to carry guns. They depend on ‘bear bangers’. So far, no one has been attacked by a bear. The ‘bangers’ seem to do the trick!


7 posted on 05/16/2015 1:51:32 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

If no one has been attacked, how do you know that the “bear bangers” work?

For us in southern country, perhaps you could explain what a “bear banger” is.

The term would bring to mind a large caliber handgun in the United States.


8 posted on 05/16/2015 1:54:41 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Balls of Titanium.


9 posted on 05/16/2015 2:00:27 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: marktwain
http://www.ursusinternational.org/en/bangers.html
10 posted on 05/16/2015 2:01:29 PM PDT by NCjim (Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.)
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To: marktwain

Bear countries with out Bangers!?!


11 posted on 05/16/2015 2:09:57 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

I do electrical in northern Alberta, I always carry a 45/70, bear bangers and spray are a joke if your life is in danger.

That’s OK though, each to their own.


12 posted on 05/16/2015 2:10:26 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Big Red Badger

not available in USA.


13 posted on 05/16/2015 2:17:15 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: marktwain
No one has been attacked BECAUSE they work. Over the years I worked for TA, Several employees have had to use them over the last few years, all successfully. Since there is no cellphone coverage in much of the mountains, and radio reception is poor, and there are not enough satellite phones to go around, employees can be on their own.

Basically, a 'banger' is similar to a shotgun shell, but has no shot, only a small plastic cap. You place it on a 'pen' launcher, aim it up directly over your head, and pull the trigger. It fires into the air making a loud 'bang', like a shotgun blast, which scares the bear away.

The downside is, in a panic, if someone aims it towards the bear and fires, and it overshoots the bear, you have a scared, angry bear running away from the sound TOWARDS you!

Here is a link to a "Bear Banger" from Mountain Equipment Company in Calgary.

14 posted on 05/16/2015 2:19:30 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: Bulwyf

Spray is better than nothing, I guess. I believe the range is supposed to be 10 feet? If a bear is charging, in the time it takes to go from that 10 feet to your face, you would have to be EXTREMELY lucky to make the blast of spray count!

When the bear attacks, if you don’t have a banger, instead of bear spray, it is better just to have a co-worker with you who runs slower than you! ;>}


15 posted on 05/16/2015 2:27:08 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

A slower running liberal? I’d have a hard time feeling bad heh


16 posted on 05/16/2015 2:47:48 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: marktwain

Sleeping outside in bear country? Darwin winner...


17 posted on 05/16/2015 2:48:07 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

“I don’t have to outrun the bear, sweetie, I just have to outrun you.”


18 posted on 05/16/2015 2:50:44 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the bug.)
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To: minnesota_bound

I ran into a black bear hiking a few weeks ago in NY; it was absolutely terrifying. It moved slowly closer when I turned to pick up a club, then moved off when I moved forward a little bit yelling (with a club in one hand, spray in the other, and a turd at my sphincter about to let loose). Last fall a foreign college student had been killed nearby (on the NJ side of the border), though I think they were taking selfies with the bear then scattered when it got closer. In any case, I wasn’t about to go out like that (and was probably lucky). The best way to describe the feeling is that I could literally “hear” my heart pounding; in the end the scariest thing was how silent the bear was (both watching me approach before I was aware of it and then when it turned and loped away). If I was hiking later in the year when more brush was grown in, I would have walked right into it without ever seeing it (and would have still had my map in one hand and GPS in the other).


19 posted on 05/16/2015 2:58:07 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

I think the bear spray is more like 30 feet. I’ve heard where the bear spray is quicker than trying to get an aimed shot off and will scare the bear off (even just the sound and the fog). But sometimes they come back in a few seconds - so then a gun is needed.

I try to carry both, but often it is just the shotgun loaded with Brenneke slugs. So far the bears know we are out there working and stay clear.


20 posted on 05/16/2015 3:00:15 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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