Posted on 04/27/2015 8:26:18 AM PDT by NOBO2012
Religion is the last standing institution not yet captured by the left... and it’s wobbling badly.
The armed services fell a couple of years ago.
I wonder if Jenner’s whole thing is a stunt designed to undermine the Republican party and Christian religion as social conservatives who believe sex is a biological fact and people’s fantasies or delusions should not be indulged.
I care less what Bruce Jenner thinks that I do what Barry Soetero does. Some of Barry’s opinions affect me.
Yes, it’s the most effective thing the Left can do to advance their agenda, further define conservatism and Christianity down.
he may be a Republican, but he ain’t no Christian.
“Bruce Jenner’s a Christian Republican???”
Nah, simply insane!
Poor sick bastid. And sick bastids are supporting him in his insanity. He needs to be institutionalized.
Bruce Jender...LOL!
If he says so and believes it, I’ll take him at his word. I don’t think God will love him any less for his mental illness.
Oxymoron times two...
[[The Culture Wars Continue: Bruce Jenner’s a Christian Republican???]]
Sorry- but you don’t get to tell God to take a flying leap and then claim you are God’s child- Jenner has shaken his fist in God’s face and informed God that He, Bruce, is higher than God, and informed God that He, God, Has no right to tell him, Bruce, what is right and what isn’t right
That is the sin of homosexuality folks- Homos elevate themselves higher than God and inform God that He is wrong for requiring them to obey Him- it is sheer unadulterated disobedience and rejection of God’s law- it IS an abomination for this very reason- Satan was kicked out of heaven because he too said He will be above God- it’s the very same sin with homosexuality- the homosexual informs God that God has no right to demand that they obey Him-
Jenner is NO Christian.
Sorry - Did you actually watch the interview? Jenner said he tells his kids “I'm dad, you can call me dad” and he is fine with being called Bruce and by male pronounces. He knows he is biologically male and DIDN'T say everyone else should be expected to pretend he is a woman because he mentally feels like one.
>> That is the sin of homosexuality folks- it’s the very same sin with homosexuality- the homosexual informs God that God has no right to demand that they obey Him- <<
Jenner is a biological male who affirmed that he's always been exclusively attracted to females and will remain so. Last time I checked, that's not homosexuality. Bringing homosexuals into the conversation is like referring to an alcoholic who abhors needles as a "heroin addict"
>> Jenner is NO Christian. <<
God loves everyone, including those with mental illnesses like Bruce Jenner.
[[God loves everyone, including those with mental illnesses like Bruce Jenner. ]]
No He doesn’t love everyone- There are things and people He hates- He states as such all through His word-
1. Homosexual acts (Leviticus 18:22).
2. Bestiality (Leviticus 18:23)
3. Idols, and the materials used to make idols (Deuteronomy 7:25)
4. Blemished sacrifices (Deuteronomy 17:1)
5. Worshipping the sun, moon or stars (Deuteronomy 17:3-4)
6. Divination (Deuteronomy 18:10)
7. Astrology (Deuteronomy 18:10)
8. Enchanters (Deuteronomy 18:10)
9. Witches (Deuteronomy 18:10)
10. Charmers (Deuteronomy 18:11)
11. Wizards (Deuteronomy 18:11)
12. Necromancers (Deuteronomy 18:11)
13. Transvestitism (Deuteronomy 22:5)
14. The hire of a whore (Deuteronomy 23:18)
15. Remarriage to a former wife after she has been married to another man (Deuteronomy 24:4)
16. Dishonest scales (Deuteronomy 25:13-16)
17. Workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5)
18. The wicked (Psalm 11:5)
19. Those who love violence (Psalm 11:5)
20. The froward [perverse] (Proverbs 3:32)
21. A proud look (Proverbs 6:16-17)
22. A lying tongue (Proverbs 6:17)
23. Hands that shed innocent blood (Proverbs 6:17)
24. A heart that devises wicked imaginations (Proverbs 6:18)
25. Feet that are swift in running to mischief (Proverbs 6:18)
26. A false witness who speaks lies (Proverbs 6:19)
27. Anyone who sows discord among brethren (Proverbs 6:19)
28. Lying lips (Proverbs 12:22)
29. The sacrifices of the wicked (Proverbs 15:8)
30. The ways of the wicked (Proverbs 15:9)
31. The thoughts of the wicked (Proverbs 15:26)
32. The proud in heart (Proverbs 16:5)
33. Those who justify the wicked (Proverbs 17:15)
34. Those who condemn the just (Proverbs 17:15)
35. Vain sacrifices (Isaiah 1:13)
36. Feasts as Israel celebrated them (Isaiah 1:14)
37. Robbery for burnt offering (Isaiah 61:8)
38. Idolatry (Jeremiah 44:2-4)
39. Evil plans against neighbors (Zechariah 8:17)
40. False oaths (Zechariah 8:17)
41. Esau (Malachi 1:1-3; Romans 9:13)
[Actually, it’s “Jacob have I loved, and Esau have I hated” -ed.]
42. Divorce (Malachi 2:14-16)
43. The deeds of the Nicolaitans (Revelation 2:6, 15)
44. “You shall not set up a sacred pillar, which the LORD your God hates” (Deuteronomy 16:22).
45. “I hate, I despise, your feast days” (Amos 5:21). This goes with Isaiah 1:14: “Your new moons and your appointed feasts My soul hates.”
You’re right- I did bring homosexuals into the conversation by mistake- I should have brought DEVIANTS into the conversation instead- my mistake- Deviants are just as guilty as homosexuals of telling God to take a flying leap- and the rest of my previous post stands-
God loves everyone, including those with mental illnesses like Bruce Jenner.
Sorry, you're wrong. He loves EVERYONE. There are certain ACTIONS he hates, many of which you listed (witchcraft, adultery, lying, shedding innocent blood, etc). He doesn't not hate the INDIVIDUAL. If those doing the sinful actions repent from their actions and obey Him, God will welcome them with open arms.
Since it was brought up, I'll comment. I think the above is why queers, and other professional deviants, hate God so much. They are so far gone that they can not differentiate the person from the sin. In their attempt to fill the God sized whole within them, sin has actually become who they are, or at least who/what they identify as. If you hate the sin, then you must, by default, hate the person,as well. Sometimes, well a lot of the times, Christians don't help the matter by not being able to properly emulate or communicate God's love and forgiveness. Our fallen nature gets in the way, if you will.
Just my 2 cents, YMMV
no I’m sorry Bill- He hates people too- He clearly states so in His word- He doesn’t declare In those verses that He hates the actions- He states outright He hates those people- And if He loves ‘all people’ then how do you explain the fact that apostates can never be saved? No chance of forgiveness- He states so in His word- Clearly then ‘God loves the world’ doesn’t mean ‘everyone without exception’
AND- Hid directive is to stone witches to death- He makes no mention of letting them off the hook ‘if they repent’ they are to be immediately put to death-
“I hate them with a perfect hatred.” (Ps. 139:22)
there are many verses throughout His word that explicitly declare He hates the Person, not the sin- and not only that there are many verses that declare Christ came for His own, and NOT for the world- Where Christ prays for His own and Not for the world- etc-
And sadly you have many on "our" side, like Bob, who AGREE with the left's talking points and thus tar the rest of us as hate mongers.
If Bob thinks the Bible commands him to hate Bruce Jenner, the individual, rather than feel sympathy for Bruce Jenner's mental illness and hope with God's grace that he can overcome the illness, that's his problem. Fortunately the vast majority of Christians don't feel God "hates" anyone. Those who do would be more at home at WBC.
Yep. And His directive is also to never eat bacon or shave your beard. Do you follow all the Old Testament commands that literally?
Are you just gonna talk about me to other people? Or attempt to address the verses where it says God hates some people? You can take as many jabs at me as you like, but the fact remains that those verses aren’t going anywhere- and they say nothing about God ‘loving the sinner, but hating the sin’- They state that God hates certain people- period-
[[Fortunately the vast majority of Christians don’t feel God “hates” anyone. ]]
It’s ‘fortunate’ that people ignore those verses which state otherwise? Really?
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