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Bad news for Jeb, Hillary in NH
The Hill ^ | March 20, 2015 | Ben Kamisar

Posted on 03/20/2015 5:26:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Focus group work by Bloomberg Politics suggests both Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush are vulnerable in New Hampshire.

Democrats are questioning Clinton’s use of a private email account while she was secretary of State, while GOP voters question whether Bush is conservative enough, according to the work by Bloomberg Politics and Purple Strategies.

While the voters in the focus group say they would still back Clinton, they questioned whether the perception of secrecy surrounding the email account would hurt her and said that they supported a third-party examination of her email server to put the issue to bed.

Bloomberg and Purple Strategies talked to 10 primary voters.

The sample of Republican voters echoed some of the same concerns that have dogged Bush since he began weighing a bid. The son and brother of former presidents, Bush has a vast network of experienced allies and has seen the presidency first hand.

But the focus group painted Bush as old hat, a potential problem for both candidates. Those concerns mirror the sentiment from an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, where the majority of voters viewed policies of both Clinton and Bush as retreads.

The Republican sample expressed positive sentiment about a number of other GOP candidates, including Gov. Scott Walker (R-Wis.), Gov. Chris Christie (R-N.J.), Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina.

While Christie's poll numbers have plummeted since he was seen as a potential front-runner, the panelists suggested that New Hampshire voters might see him as more relatable because of his no-nonsense approach. They also praised Walker for surviving his tough recall election after he spearheaded the push to change union laws in Wisconsin. They added that they weren't concerned about his lack of a college degree.

The New Hampshire primary is one of the first on the presidential nominating calendar, a contest that typically has an outsized impact on early race momentum. Future Republican nominees Mitt Romney and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) won the New Hampshire primary in 2012 and 2008 respectively, while Clinton won the contest back in 2008.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2016; gopprimary; hillary; nh
Dems know they have to stand behind Hillary to win in 2016 - no matter how ugly and repugnant her behavior and her husband's behavior is.
1 posted on 03/20/2015 5:26:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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2 posted on 03/20/2015 5:33:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

O’Malley gives fairly decent speeches. Have you heard Hillary give a speech in the past two years? Maybe ten years ago....she had some four-star abilities left, but that’s come and gone. She might be a king-maker still....but it’s not for herself.

As for Jeb? His time came and went. I just don’t see him getting folks excited throughout the southern states (except for Florida). Looking at the first four primary states...some chances that he’ll take one single state...but it won’t be Iowa or South Carolina.


3 posted on 03/20/2015 5:36:11 AM PDT by pepsionice
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while GOP voters question whether Bush is conservative enough

I don't think we're questioning. I think we're outright rejecting.

4 posted on 03/20/2015 5:46:44 AM PDT by Maceman
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Oh, we’re rejecting alright, but the Uniparty doesn’t care. Jebster is the designated loser this time around.

If Hillary is the Democrat nominee, then Jebster has to be the GOP nominee. He’s the only one who can lose to her.

I’d really like to vote for someone who will stand for the rule of law, American sovereignty and the citizens.
Unfortunately Jeff Sessions isn’t running.


5 posted on 03/20/2015 6:02:23 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I don't like the NH primary. Decades ago, it was a nice measure of what impressed very independent and free-thinking voters. Now (on the Republican side for sure) it's rigged at the top. Evidence....Senator Kelly Ayotte and Scott Brown's nomination. GWB controlling the money and controlling the show. McCain's popularity coming from nowhere, it seems. Romney owning the primary. Ron Pauls popularity not translating to primary votes.

What's this about Ted Cruz not being on the list? I ignore any polling with that situation, problem is the media uses it to push establishment faves.

6 posted on 03/20/2015 6:02:53 AM PDT by grania
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Maybe ten years ago....she had some four-star abilities left, but that’s come and gone. She might be a king-maker still....but it’s not for herself.

You mean like "Ah ain't no ways tahred"....?

or the screech:

“I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration.”

She has the oratory abilities of a beer drinker's rectum after too many burritos as snacks.

7 posted on 03/20/2015 6:04:56 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Unfortunately Jeff Sessions isn’t running.

But Ted Cruz is.

8 posted on 03/20/2015 6:17:31 AM PDT by Maceman
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No more Bushes, No more Clintons


9 posted on 03/20/2015 6:24:57 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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Not *that* is a colorful description.


10 posted on 03/20/2015 6:25:57 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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To: grania

The problem started when it became an open primary and same day registration. I see people in my town go into the local polling place, change registration to either a democrat or republican, vote and then change back to independent 5 minutes later. This is why moderate, middle of the road republicans keep winning the NH republican primary.

The breakdown is about 1/3 each dem, pubbie, independent.
The independents swing the vote both ways especially in close races.

We had a closed primary up until 10-15 years ago. It was better when you had to declare your affiliation 60 days prior to primary day. Back then a true conservative had a chance. Now, too many people RINO make up the voting block.


11 posted on 03/20/2015 6:43:51 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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12 posted on 03/20/2015 6:50:26 AM PDT by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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The posted article contains a link to the Bloomberg article. Click that link and you will find the following gem about how unpopular Jebbie is in NH:

New Bloomberg Politics/Purple Strategies focus groups of New Hampshire voters show presumptive 2016 frontrunner Jeb Bush may be facing real problems within the GOP. Several likely Republican primary voters say they don’t think Bush can win, even laughing at the notion that he is the frontrunner. None said they’d back Bush if they were voting today. The focus group with Republican voters was moderated by Bloomberg Politics managing editor Mark Halperin and conducted by independent polling firm Purple Strategies. (My emphasis.)

13 posted on 03/20/2015 6:52:51 AM PDT by libstripper (")
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To: woodbutcher1963
That's really bad. If hillary is an automatic candidate, that means dems will control who the Republican nominee is.

And we'll be stuck with Jeb vs hillary. This will be a problem nationwide.

14 posted on 03/20/2015 6:57:41 AM PDT by grania
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To: Maceman

That’s where my hope lies at the moment


15 posted on 03/20/2015 6:58:16 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oops! Did some one step on a duck?


16 posted on 03/20/2015 7:19:30 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ $0.05 cents a can.)
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Red Hampshire? Outside of loopy ‘Free Staters’ and the media, who gives a damn? The primary is rigged.


17 posted on 03/20/2015 7:20:56 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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NAILED IT!!! Post #11, folks...read it, breathe it. The winner of the GOP primary in Red Hampshire is the candidate the Dems WANT to run against. Dems cross over to ‘make it so’.


18 posted on 03/20/2015 7:27:49 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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