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Marijuana destroys Families
2/2/2015 | Rfreedom4u

Posted on 02/02/2015 12:28:23 PM PST by rfreedom4u

My daughter will turn 19 this month. She is our fifth child. She has also been the most worrying to us as she started using drugs a long time ago. She said she first smoked weed at age 12. Since then she has gone on the try many other drugs to include meth, cocaine, pills and LSD and a few others I can’t name. Last year she was in intensive care for 8 days. She has also been in jail about seven or eight times and gone through rehab twice. She is currently living with her mother and I at home but things are getting very tense. She broke up with her boyfriend and says that the stress of breakup makes her want to go get high and chill with her friends. Her friends are not true friends as they are also on drugs. Every time she hangs out with them she stays wasted for a couple days and I had to take her to the ER twice due to overdose on alcohol. Add to all this she has been beat up several times and raped twice that she has admitted to. When you add into this chaos the fact that my wife suffers from a mental illness which is made worse with stress it gets even more chaotic. Now I am at the point where I will soon have to make the choice of allowing my wife to be hospitalized because of her mental illness or I put my daughter out because of the strife she is causing. We’ve offered her all the help in the world and she continues to go on binges and tell us that what we offer won’t help. The last time she got wasted she told us all to “Go f***” ourselves. That night she left the house and was brought home by the police when they found her walking down the highway. As a parent I love my daughter endlessly. But I don’t see how (or why) I should continue to allow her to destroy the rest of the family. But at the same time I feel guilty for what I am considering. We can’t force her into treatment as she is an “adult” and I’m afraid that she will either end up in prison or dead. All this started I believe because she started smoking weed. The weed lowered her inhibitions and resistance and she started doing other drugs. So I truly believe that weed is a gateway drug and should never be legalized. If someone needs it for medicinal purposes they should have to go to a pharmacy for it just like we do with other prescription medications. It hurts me to do it, but I think I may be evicting her from the house today when I get home from work.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: cannabis; drugs; family; libertarianagenda; marijuana; pot; prodope; wod
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m just waiting for the usual of should we ban beer, wine and cigs.


201 posted on 02/02/2015 3:36:45 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I see the trolls have been pinged and now all of a sudden posting in defense of their drugs


202 posted on 02/02/2015 3:38:14 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: MileHi

Then you need to talk with the proponents who blamed the little girl. They are not doing your cause any good.

Why? Because that is the primary problem with legalization — it exposes more children to it and more children will take up the habit and children are especially vulnerable.

By using some absurd rationalization, they tilted their hand and showed their real intentions — they really don’t care about the children. They only care about unrestricted access and win at all costs.


203 posted on 02/02/2015 3:38:35 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: ConservingFreedom
IMO the primary strangler has been factual information.

Which is now available due to the ubiquity of usage, and which only came to be known in the last half of the twentieth century. It took hundreds of years for people to realize the death and destruction caused by tobacco usage.

This is what I mean when I say that people starting out on drugs simply do not know what they are getting in to. They are starting out blind and with a presumption of harmlessness, and the reality of the addictive effect of drugs doesn't manifest until it has already grabbed them. And then it is too late.

204 posted on 02/02/2015 3:38:53 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: chris37

I see that there is a lot of vitriol in this thread about whether or not a drug or all drugs should be illegal or not legal, and there usually is on this subject.

I would just like to say, without singling anyone out in particular, so I write this post to myself, that the legality of drugs simply does not matter to an addict.

A person with the demon of addiction is going to encounter and do battle with that demon at some point in their lives regardless of whether or not the particular object of their demon is legal or not.

Law is not going to save them from this. Loved ones cannot save them from this. Even God cannot save them from this, but He most certainly can help an addict who does wish to help themselves. But the key is that the addict must want to help themselves. Without that desire to overcome, the addiction will always win.

To try and illustrate what I am talking about, I like to use the drug Krokdoil as an example. This is a cheap heroin knock off made form coedine pills and gasoline and red phosphor and other horrible crap.

It is then injected into the veins where it then in short order proceeds to rot the flesh of the user form the inside out, until their limbs and other areas literally rot off or they otherwise die from usage.

I understand that this drug is 4 times more potent than heroin, and thus the degree of physical addiction caused by it is staggering. Once you start, chances are, you are going to die, soon.

if the promise of rotting flesh and limbs and death is not enough to deter people from using this drug, then obviously a law doesn’t matter at all. it does not even figure into the equation for the addict.

What causes them to start in the first place is some hole in their life and/ or soul that they attempt to self medicate by numbing their minds with drugs. Shortly thereafter, physical addiction forms, and they are stuck in a rut that very few escape.

Some people will argue that if the drugs are illegal, then that lessens the chance to get it. if users are in jail, that gives them a chance to sober up.

Problem is that there is always going to be some unscrupulous person who will provide the fix for payment, even in jail, and in the end, if the addict never addresses the root cause of the desire to use drugs in the first place, i.e. I simply cannot tolerate being sober all day long, every day for whatever reason, they will no doubt cross paths with the easy way out somewhere along the line, and it will start again.

Addiction is a problem that is really outside of the scope of law. It is a spiritual problem, and in the cases of physical addiction, it can also be a medical problem, because some withdrawal symptoms are so severe that they kill, and it takes a great deal of fortitude to endure such symptoms.

All that being said, I don’t know what the answer is on legality. Certainly seems like crack and heroin and meth and all that should not be legal, but at the same time, much as we want to, we cannot protect people from themselves.

Only a person can protect himself from himself, with the help of God.


205 posted on 02/02/2015 3:39:05 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: rfreedom4u

How she got to where she is now is of no importance it’s what happens from here. There are ways to still help and I sent you a PM with a good place to start. You are not alone in this fight!


206 posted on 02/02/2015 3:39:37 PM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: AppyPappy

Wouldn’t surprise....


207 posted on 02/02/2015 3:40:03 PM PST by matginzac
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To: DiogenesLamp
Some people can digest milk. Other's can't. Indians lack the proper enzymes for processing alcohol, and so it screws them up worse than it does white people.

Wow, so you want to outlaw milk and booze?

That immuned people get some pleasure does in no way make up for the fact that susceptible people DIE.

I guess you do.

208 posted on 02/02/2015 3:40:13 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: rfreedom4u
Am I the only FReeper that actually reads the posts????

This rfreedom4u post is just wrong....

Where are all the FReeper's that smell BS???

209 posted on 02/02/2015 3:40:51 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Doctors the prescribe mind altering drugs to children that keep the zombified for most of their childhood and sometimes even into their adult life. If you are not aware of this than you are the one that needs help.


210 posted on 02/02/2015 3:41:00 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: DiogenesLamp
It is irrelevant to the central point; That killing drug dealers reduces drug usage and drug supply.

Doesn't making it a capital offense normally reduce any crime?

211 posted on 02/02/2015 3:41:14 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: eastforker
You newbies think you got the answer for everything...or just a youngen with a distrted view of the world?

I would bet that I have more personal experience with drug addicts than do you. In this world, I think *YOU* are the newbie. Do you know what "smoking the push" means?

212 posted on 02/02/2015 3:41:55 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: manc

They’ve been there, done that.

They’ve also compared drugs to aspirin, Tylenol, soda, chocolate and more.

That banning marijuana is as bad as banning soda.

The bat bleep libs are going full on stupid today.


213 posted on 02/02/2015 3:42:15 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yup, absolutely no freedom at all, people like you want to do the same thing here like all nanny staters.


214 posted on 02/02/2015 3:43:13 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: dhs12345
Then you need to talk with the proponents who blamed the little girl.

No, I'm talking to you because you lumped me in with comments I didn't make.

215 posted on 02/02/2015 3:43:43 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
We should issue them all taxpayer ID numbers and set them up as legitimate businesses, right?

Once again you fail to understand a difference between a Tylenol and a needle full of crack.

The British East India company *WAS* a legitimate business. By 1900 China had ~ 50% addiction rate. Business was good.

Then the four thousand year old system of governance collapsed and chaos reigned for the next 100 years.

216 posted on 02/02/2015 3:44:21 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: GeronL

Because you posted many times on the Texas board, you made it everyones business. Most people that don’t work usually do know pot smokers.


217 posted on 02/02/2015 3:45:25 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: MileHi

So, then set the record straight. What do you think?


218 posted on 02/02/2015 3:46:46 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: manc

Besides defending drugs, they are also attacking the victim.

More than a few replies blaming 4freedom.

This place is infested with libs. Disgusting.


219 posted on 02/02/2015 3:47:41 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (See Ya On The Road; Al Baby's Mom!)
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To: eastforker
I make it a habit not to let out any potentially identifiable personal information. I have been attacked by left wing loons in the past and I believe it prudent to keep personal information to a minimum.

All I am willing to tell you is that i've made enough money and no longer have to work, but will still do occasional jobs for various entities/companies/people when they want my skill set and when I feel like it. I can do pretty much whatever I want at this point.

220 posted on 02/02/2015 3:50:27 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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