Posted on 12/17/2014 10:24:56 AM PST by Manly Warrior
Hey Freepers;
A North Georgia family man who defended himself and his family with lethal force against two younger men on his own property has been charged with 1st degree murder. Bo hosted a birthday party at his home and a parent and another man later confronted him on his own property about some as yet unknown issue. A call was placed from Bo's residence to 911, a fight ensued, one man was shot and killed (Brandon Weaver). The Sheriff did not arrest Bo until some 12 days later. Bo is being held w/o bond on a 1st degree premeditated murder charge. Please consider helping out with legal defense.
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Sorry, Bo’s name is Herman James Seppenfield, of Dawsonville Georgia... Dead man is Brandon Weaver, who otherwise for this assault, seemed to be a solid man as well. Not much available in the News.
Bo is a business man and a high power rifle shooter (which is how I am acquainted).
Bad situation for all.
I am sympathetic to the man and his situation, but I would like to hear more about how this went down. I would like to support him, but so far I’m only seeing a request and not the full reason.
First degree murder is difficult to prove. The fact that the sheriff waited 12 days says they performed an investigation, presented a case to the prosecuting attorney and got buy-in that they had a case. Also, they must have some corroborating evidence or they would most likely not have gone for a murder one charge. A politically motivated charge would most likely be lower than 1st as the evidence required is less.
They must believe they can prove this case beyond reasonable doubt. We should wait for more information before taking up this cause.
that or’they are hoping the guy will plea out to a lesser charge.
sorry for the side issue. Can anyone help me find the story of the robbery shoot-out in LA in which the bad guys had automatic weapons and body armor and the cops had to call for heavier weapons.
One clue for you is that the guy that got shot and another guy went back to the party where he knew drinking was in progress.
The first rule of self protection is you do not confront a person with whom you may have a disagreement on that person’s front porch.
When you are on the other guy’s front porch and not yours, you are going to have a hard time defending yourself from the charge that you were looking for trouble.
On that basis alone, I give the shooter a pass.
Here are my thoughts. The weaver kid left the party early on foot. I have a feeling the kid may have said something to the accused about telling his dad what was going on.If the shooter was indeed drinking and I understand that alcohol was involved, the he may have boasted something to the effect of, “tell him to come on, I’ll kill his ass if he comes here”. Not saying that’s what happened but that statement or one like it could be used against him.
“that or’they are hoping the guy will plea out to a lesser charge.”
I thought about that, which is what I think was intended for George Zimmerman. But I think that tactic in true self defense cases is used less now than before GZ. It’s easier to get a large number of supporters via the internet and therefore financing and free legal help than it was previously. This is a highly planned game on the part of prosecutors. If they have something good and this becomes a celebrity cause they will leak it and undercut his financing and public support.
Not enough information here to determine whether deadly force was warranted.
Just because someone starts a fight with you on your property may not necessarily justify blowing their head off.
I’m not leaning either way right now. I suppose that isn’t exactly accurate, because I do actually lean to the home owner. That doesn’t mean that a home-owner couldn’t have instigated a problem to begin with and ultimately over-reacted either though.
I would like to hear something like a timeline of what exactly transpired.
Its is called the North Hollywood shootout. Search YouTube and you will find it. Cops had to go to B&B Guns because all they had were side arms and shotguns.
Capt. Tony Wooten said Weaver picked up his young son from a birthday party on Nov. 22 at a home on Whitney Place in Dawsonville after the child had complained the adults were drunk and rowdy. “The kids made a good decision to leave that residence because they felt uncomfortable,” said Wooten.
Never good to mix alcohol and firearms. State has a good case most likely. He may have been defending himself, but the alcohol part is what's gonna screw him. Not a good defense, IMHO
One other obvious scenario. Weaver was shot twice. once in the side and once in the chest. If it is determined he was shot the second time after he was already down on the ground,and no further threat, that would also be murder and premeditated..
Thanx used the wiki write up to reply to someone on another thread who’s ays cops should be unarmed.
And here is yet another scenario. Since the kid was invited it is evident the families knew one another. There may have been some kind of feud between the parents, weaver was a little league coach by the way. The shooter while maybe at a ball game or in a public bar may have made a statement in the past to someone about, I’ll kill that SOB if I ever get the chance. Just saying, all the above could lead to 1st degree murder chargers.
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