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Dogs and Guns Prove Effective in Ohio Countryside
Gun Watch ^ | 27 October, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/28/2014 4:24:44 PM PDT by marktwain



Dogs and guns have been an effective crime stopping combination for as long as people have possessed them.   They were proven effective once again in Butler County, Ohio.   The suspect broke out a basement window to gain access to the rural home of Brian Hiner.    Brian woke to the alarmed barks of his dogs, which appear to black and golden Labradors.  He then heard the intruder coming up the basement stairs, called the sheriff, and held Michael Roberts, pictured above, at gunpoint for the responding deputies.




The deputies arrived, and took Roberts into custody.    Somehow, Roberts managed to escape the deputies vehicle while Brian was being interviewed.   The suspect fled into a nearby cornfield.


A few hours later, 15 year old, Justin Kugler was home alone, sick, when he heard his dogs start barking.  He armed himself and looked downstairs, just in time to see Roberts enter the house.   Justin is on the left in the screenshot above.  From 14news.com:

"I was home sending an email to my teachers about homework when my dogs started barking and I looked out the window but I didn't see anybody there so I went to the top of the stairs with the gun to make sure there wasn't anybody downstairs and then that's when the door opened and I saw him," said Justin Kugler.

Kugler says he was pretty scared because he noticed Roberts had a knife on him, but he was armed and ready for Roberts at the top of the stairs.

"I told him to get out of the house or I'm going to shoot you," said Justin Kugler.

Roberts was taken back into custody just after he exited the Kugler home.

Dogs and guns are a powerful defensive combination that is hard to overcome.   Just as important is a community that trusts the local peace officers to form a cooperative network.   Local residents are the front line, while the sheriff's deputies form the rapid response team and communications network.  In communities that trust their local criminal justice system, the crime rates are very low.   Sheriffs, as elected officials, tend to be responsive to their constituents.

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Dogs and guns are a very difficult combination to beat.
1 posted on 10/28/2014 4:24:44 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

We’ve had German Shepherds on the farm for decades.Recently added a Rottweiler to the group,for a little extra canine muscle.Break into our house and you get to deal with the dogs first,which is actually a lot better than having to deal with me or my wife.


2 posted on 10/28/2014 4:31:05 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: marktwain

They’re effective in urban environments too. A 6 foot chain link fence makes the combination even better.


3 posted on 10/28/2014 4:34:57 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Farmer Dean

We added a doberman to our pack when things started going south in our town. You can’t come anywhere near our property without him going ape sh**. He’s just as nice as can be when we’re at the park though. Our imediate neighbors have rottweilers, pit bulls and german shepards.


4 posted on 10/28/2014 4:38:30 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: marktwain

5 posted on 10/28/2014 4:40:41 PM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: marktwain

This is something of a first. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of an armed robber confronted by a gun and arrested, escaping and trying another armed robbery, only to be greeted by a gun again. And not getting shot at all.

That fool’s guardian angel was working overtime, but could have saved a lot of effort had he just imparted the fool with some brains or common sense.


6 posted on 10/28/2014 4:42:25 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: marktwain

Works for us too. My Doberman will rip the face off anyone who messes with me. Intruders won’t even get past the door before getting some body part chewed off. I think they’d actually crap their pants just from his bark. LOL. He’s a keeper.


7 posted on 10/28/2014 4:45:25 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

There was a break-in last year where the school girl (home alone) had her headphones on and didn’t hear the guy in the house. He comes into the living room where they see each other and she screams. Luckily the guy bolted out of the house.

The girl ran over the neighbor’s house to call 911. She and the neighbor are standing at the door and see the guy run back into the girl’s house (front door open), grabs some stuff, and then leaves again! Too bad the neighbor didn’t have a shotgun ready.


8 posted on 10/28/2014 4:48:27 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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9 posted on 10/28/2014 4:49:20 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The whole story proves that most people are very reluctant to shoot someone.


10 posted on 10/28/2014 5:04:55 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: marktwain

too much restraint. half measures when a full measure was needed.


11 posted on 10/28/2014 5:22:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marktwain

Mine will alert me but little else but that’s fine.


12 posted on 10/28/2014 5:22:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: Farmer Dean

Its good to have stories like that to beat liberals over the head with.

A few years ago a local armed man stabbed an attacker in the leg and shoulder. Said he didn’t want to shoot the guy for being a drunken idiot.


13 posted on 10/28/2014 5:27:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: marktwain

How did the perp escape the sheriff’s deputies? Not very confidence inspiring, is it?

My son’s retired K-9, a Belgian Malinois, is our house guardian. If you feel like feeding her, come on over. You can be her dinner guest. She’ll lick you to death. Now it is my son’s Ruger you’ve got to watch out for.


14 posted on 10/28/2014 5:37:28 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
That fool’s guardian angel was working overtime...

The 'fool's' Meth addiction was working overtime. When they need a fix, they don't calculate the odds of getting their heads blown off.

15 posted on 10/28/2014 5:37:30 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Secret Agent Man
"too much restraint. half measures when a full measure was needed."

It's never, even if necessary, a good thing to kill another person. Restraint is a good thing. I applaud these people for their restraint.

16 posted on 10/28/2014 5:54:56 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto

the very next thing he did was break into another home.

don’t let it become somebody else’s problem. it could end far worse for them.

and i never said it was a good thing. but murder is worse. killing in self defense i can live with. even stopping a fleeing felon that’s danerous.


17 posted on 10/28/2014 5:58:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
You are far more trigger happy than I would ever be. I don't want to kill someone for breaking my window or even stealing some property. I have insurance.

I would kill them for going after anyone I cared for, including my family, my neighbors or myself.

I hope you are never in that situation, but don't be trigger happy. Quick decisions are more often than not, bad decisions.

18 posted on 10/28/2014 6:24:14 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto

So, what would you do if you found this fool in your house coming at you? Give him a beer? Introduce him to your daughter?


19 posted on 10/28/2014 6:43:49 PM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: Sasparilla

He already answered that question.


20 posted on 10/28/2014 6:44:36 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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