Whistle Blower Claims She Forged Obama’s Birth Certificate, Guess Who It Is?

The Liberty Digest ^ | Dec 26, 2013 | William Wallace

[Fawn]

It is important to note that the only person to “see” and authenticate the long form birth certificate of one President Barrack H. Obama is now dead in a plane crash. Even more controversial is the one that they submitted as truth on the Whitehouse.gov website is 10 layered in Photo Shop and thought to be fake. The conspiracy never seems to die.

Now a whistle blower comes forward and claims she forged Obama’s birth certificate in 1985. She doesn’t just claim that she did the long form, but the short form as well. Both those claims if proven are enough to make people worry about who really is our President.

Funny how this person is not only a family member but also insists she did it for the drug cartels in Mexico. Fast and Furious and the Federal Court ruling to include drugs and child smuggling make more sense now.

[Boogieman]

Common courtesy is to ping other FReepers when you talk about them, even if you are under the mistaken impression that someone is a “shill”.

[Boogieman]

The NTSB possibly violating procedure does not an assassination make. If you had some evidence or testimony actually suggesting that a murder happened, then it might be an interesting evidence of a cover-up, but with no evidence of a crime, it’s pointless to speculate about a cover-up.

[butterdezillion]

I repeat. If you’ve got no problem with a federal agency allowing a potential suspect to dismantle the critical evidence in a crime scene, then discussion with you is pointless.

Do you have a problem with it, or not?

[Fred Nerks]

...Fuddy was holding Yamamoto’s hand until she let go and became unresponsive, according to what Yamamoto told the priest. They must have been floating on their backs with one arm stretched out to hold the other’s hand. Fuddy was distressed, and at some point she just went unconscious/dead.

and neither of them were treading water...because the lifejackets fully supported their bodyweight and held their heads out of the water. People might drown wearing only a bouyancyvest - but a lifejacket isn't also known as a life-preserver for no reason. Life preserver/vests are mandatory in aircraft flying over water.

What killed her hasn't been announced (imo) because the police are still interviewing the passengers and the aircraft manufacturer is calling for any reports of foul play, according to the Breitbart website.

[Brown Deer]

She’s his sister Einstein!

What makes you believe that this woman from Florida is 0bama's sister?

[Fred Nerks]

Nancy Owens was born in 1962? And she uses a photograph of Maya and zero taken at his graduation from Punahou on 1979? When Nancy would have been 17 years of age? And she shows that photograph to try to identify herself as zero’s sister?And there are STILL some people who maintain she’s credible?

There aren’t enough LOLZ in the world to describe what I think of that idea.

Truly worthy of a Martha Trowbridge episode.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3105481/posts?page=82#82

The girl with zero is the daughter of Stanley Ann Dunham, she was born in Indonesia in 1970. She’s part Indonesian. Her father is reported to have been Lolo Soetoro.

[Fred Nerks]

I can find wikipedia on my own, thanks very much.

But you didn't, I suggested you educate yourself as to the difference between a bouyancy vest and a lifejacket/life preserver, and find out what was mandatory to be carried by an aircraft flying over water. When it became obvious you had no intention of researching the matter, I simply did it for you. Yet you still continue to refer to a lifejacket/life preserver as a bouyancy vest. Are you thick or just deliberately twisting words? Methinks TROLL might be the better adjective.

You've contributed NOTHING to the discussion.

[butterdezillion]

Are the police investigating, or is it just the NTSB investigating (or not, as the case may be) in this case? The NTSB is responsible to make sure that an autopsy is conducted because they are to treat the scene as a crime scene when there are sparks or casualties. The coroner determines the cause of death and is supposed to report it to the NTSB, to help them determine whether sabotage is likely. The NTSB was saying that the cause of death has not yet been determined. Not just that it hadn’t been made public but that they were not told a cause of death because one had not yet been determined.

If the plane company’s insurer paid to have the plane lifted from the water it sounds like they may believe there was sabotage. Of course, there may be no way to know whether there was sabotage or not, since the engine was taken off the plane before it was retrieved from the water, leaving a totally compromised/contaminated chain of custody for the chief piece of evidence.

The NTSB’s own investigation would include interviews of the witnesses, but unless and until they find that the plane was sabotaged I’m not sure that law enforcement would investigate. If it was determined that there was sabotage it would fall to law enforcement to find out who did it, since the NTSB’s job is just to find out the cause of the incident and make recommendations based on their findings.

I’ll have to see if I can find the article on the Breitbart website.

If I was the maker of Cessna aircraft I would sure as heck want to know what is going on with BOTH those engine failures, 50 days and less than 25 miles apart, and neither of them handled properly by the NTSB!

[editor-surveyor]

Yes, but do we have any real records that we can lean on?

[editor-surveyor]

The simple fact that everything we were told by O has been shown to be false.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “Don’t you think?” <<

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No, not really. - They are a crime family, and not likely to have much of a trace of anything.

[Fred Nerks]

Yes, but do we have any real records that we can lean on?

Records of what? If Nancy was 17 in 1979, she simply isn't the girl with zero in 1979. And Nancy isn't Indonesian. Are you trying to be cute?

[Fred Nerks]

...If I was the maker of Cessna aircraft I would sure as heck want to know what is going on with BOTH those engine failures, 50 days and less than 25 miles apart, and neither of them handled properly by the NTSB!

I'm not prepared to go back now through all the hundreds or articles and videos on this subject, but I do recall the question was raised IF THEY HAD THE RIGHT AIRCRAFT when it was salvaged. I have a sense that we might we watching the ultimate unravelling of an insurance scam, and the manufacturer is rightfully asking for information to protect themselves. The water wasn't very deep where that plane went down, but the depth of possible implications indicate a dark, murky, typically Hawaii situation...and I don't read mystery novels, but the plot seems to fit a cast of countless shifty characters, right down to there apparently being only eight lifejackets in an aircraft that was licenced to carry and did carry, nine passengers. This is going to be a monumental story, with many subsequent episodes imo. Truth shall be stranger than fiction... Anone who sounds as if they know it all is simply advertising their agenda. Questions are what will remain important.

[Fred Nerks]

http://beforeitsnews.com/obama-birthplace-controversy/2013/12/extremely-important-public-is-asked-to-contact-pratt-and-whitney-cessna-engine-manufacturer-report-to-them-all-evidence-of-foul-play-and-2472224.html

Extremely important: Public is asked to contact Pratt and Whitney Cessna engine manufacturer, report to them all evidence of foul play and…
Saturday, December 21, 2013 7:29

Please contact Pratt and Whitney asap, more discrepancies noted:

1. they are saying that the plane was intact when it submerged and all the damage was done by the ocean in one week, however reports show that there weren’t any significant water currents, therefore there should not have been such serious damage in one week.

2. Patrick Ross, president of Sea Engineering, stated that due to huge surf they could not do anything until December 18th

Sea Engineering is responsible for bringing the plane up from the ocean.

“Challenging part was waiting for the window, the weather window. We wanted to go last Saturday but the surf was huge and we weren’t able to,” Ross shared.

However this contradicts the statement by Richard Schuman, the President of Makani air, who on December 20th stated that they had divers working on reckage since December 11th. If the weather conditions were so bad, how could those divers work on the plane from December 11-18th.

further, why was Schuman silent about those divers until
December 20th, why didn’t Schuman disclose to the public until December 20th that the divers were working on the reckage from December 11-18, when supposedly due to weather conditions and huge surf the Sea engineers could not do anything?

what were those divers doing for a whole week? It looks like Schuman and these divers had the whole week to contaminate the scene and cover up the true cause of this emergency water landing.

I am asking supporters in Canada to visit the engine manufacturer and provide all of the evidence gathered here to each and every official at Pratt and Whitney in Canada. Engine failure is a terrible publicity for their business, it can ruin their business, I believe they would be interested in knowing all inconsistencies associated with this emergency water landing. They might hire their on private investigators to investigate what these divers working for Richard Schuman did for a week until NTSB lifted the plane, how much these divers contaminated the scene.

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[Boogieman]

“When it became obvious you had no intention of researching the matter, I simply did it for you. Yet you still continue to refer to a lifejacket/life preserver as a bouyancy vest.”

Nah, you just assumed that I didn’t know the difference, and that there are only case of people drowning wearing life vests, while in fact there are plenty of cases of people drowning wearing buoyancy vests as well. You might decide to pretend they don’t exist, but that’s not my problem.

[Fantasywriter]

Before you make this one tired point over and over again, how about apologizing for COMPLETELY misrepresenting my position on the other thread. You also completely misrepresented the contents of the article. Having observed you in action, I no longer believe one word you post, including the ‘and’s and the ‘the’s. Beyond which, I see no point in the constant beating of dead horses that seems an obsession w you. The salient point here is that following the autopsy, the announcement was made that no cause of death had been determined. For whatever reason, you cannot process this simple truth. That’s no excuse for your tedious, neverending repetitions, however. Knock it off.

[Boogieman]

“Do you have a problem with it, or not?”

Well, I’m not in favor of the NTSB failing to uphold regulations, but I also don’t consider it to be any kind of evidence of a crime. So what is the pointing in focusing on that, when it gets you nowhere closer to the truth about what happened to Fuddy?

[Boogieman]

So you would rather believe that this woman is Obama’s sister, even though she is a demonstrable liar without a shred of evidence that she’s ever been in the same room as the man?

If so, you may be as delusional as she apparently is.

[Fred Nerks]

Communicating with you using the english language is becoming impossible because you are the most slippery, weasel-wordsmith I’ve ever encountered on FR. I’ve had more success nailing jello to the wall than I have in trying to explain to you the difference between a bounancy vest and a life jacket/preserver.
A bouyancyvest simply assist the wearer to remain bouyant and conserve energy. It’s a device worn by people who engage in watersports, and if they should become unconscious for any reason, they can drown, because the vest doesn’t prevent their heads from tipping over into the water.

A lifejacket/preserver tips the body on its back, and prevents the head from touching the water. Even unconscious, the wearer’s head is OUT OF THE WATER.

You’ve either never worn one or the other, are too lazy to find out the difference, or you’re so invested in an agenda, you’re blind and deaf.

Now go and talk to someone else, before the Mods pull the thread because you are stirring the pot.