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Secondhand Smoke, Third-Rate Science
Coach is Right ^ | 12/18/13 | Michael D. Shaw

Posted on 12/18/2013 8:55:01 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

In a perfect world, it wouldn’t be necessary for me to begin this article by affirming that I am not a supporter of smoking, nor am I a paid shill of the tobacco industry. But in our real world–in which a goodly amount of scientific research grant money is awarded on the basis of sensationalized fearmongering results–those who question the validity of such results are often attacked.

“Kill the messenger” is hardly a new phenomenon, having been recorded as early as 442 BC in the play Antigone by Sophocles.

That said, let’s proceed to the matter at hand: The overblown (sorry, couldn’t resist) dangers of secondhand smoke. We’ll start off with the latest findings, as presented at the June, 2013 meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology.

“Among never smokers, any passive smoking exposure and most passive smoking categories did not significantly increase lung cancer risk, compared to no passive exposure; however, passive exposure as an adult at home for 30 or more years was associated with increased risk, of borderline significance.”

These conclusions were reached based on an analysis of data...

(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: 4thratecriticism; antitobaccoscam; followthemoney; lungs; ntsa; scam; smoking; smokingiscool; tobacco
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1 posted on 12/18/2013 8:55:01 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

Agenda science.


2 posted on 12/18/2013 8:55:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I kid you not I saw a story warning about THIRD HAND smoke. Smoke precipitating on surfaces and being picked up by people.


3 posted on 12/18/2013 9:00:48 AM PST by DManA
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Marihuana smoke on the other hand is magical.

Not only does it not affect those around it, its good for them at the same time! LOL


4 posted on 12/18/2013 9:03:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: DManA

LOL! Not to mention just the mere odor. As a boomer, wouldn’t one suppose that our exposure to 2nd hand smoke as kids would be the cause of the demise of the majority of boomers? I remember parties at my folks house and at friends houses where we, as kids, could hardly see across the living room. I did read an anecdotal study that covered 30 years of married couples composed of only one smoker and casual and heavy and the conclusion was.............2nd hand smoke was not a factor.


5 posted on 12/18/2013 9:06:30 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Smokers get first AND secondhand smoke and it still takes years to kill them IF it kills them.


6 posted on 12/18/2013 9:18:17 AM PST by fruser1
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To: cripplecreek

I know that I do not like second hand smoke. If someone smokes in a room in my house, I can smell it for the next day.

I also hate the smell on my clothes from second hand smoke.

I don’t like the smell in my car from second hand smoke.

Hotels are taking notice providing “never smoked in rooms” which I like better. I am glad there are still “smoked in rooms” too.

I don’t know if tobacco causes cancer or prevents it though. There is apparently one compound in tobacco that may show some anti cancer properties.


7 posted on 12/18/2013 9:21:36 AM PST by staytrue
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To: fruser1

True enough. My dad has smoked Pall Malls since he was about 15 and he’s 77 now.


8 posted on 12/18/2013 9:23:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oldpuppymax; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Eric Blair 2084; Mears; metesky; Madame Dufarge; ...

Gee, haven’t we heard this before? Oh yeah - we’ve all been saying this for years.


9 posted on 12/18/2013 9:23:47 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Good post.

I love how there’s never any mention of fireplaces, woodstoves, campfires.

The same people with delicate constitutions that whine about my cigar smoke get all happy and snuggly when they go to a B&B and sit in front of a fireplace with a glass of chardonnay.

Seems like smoke from burning every type of vegetation, including pot, is absolutely fine for human consumption - all except for one single plant, the tobacco plant.

Put simply, new world order-controlled university pseudo-science is simply a stupid monkey doing tricks for it’s new world order master.

Research monkey: Do the Foundations tell us we’re supposed to invent global warming ? No problem, we’ll write some “studies”.

Research monkey: Smoking causes cancer ? No problem, we’ll bury all the evidence of other causes and write up piles of fantasy studies concluding that tobacoo smoke is the only cause.

Meanwhile, all of new world order’s major manufucturers, chemical firms, food additives industry, pharma, etc...... they can happily go on poisoning the sheeple so NWO’s medical industry will have millions of customers being sickened by NWO-caused epidemics.


10 posted on 12/18/2013 9:47:40 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Ping.


11 posted on 12/18/2013 9:48:35 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Oldpuppymax
And now we have the e-cig revolution. No smoke, no odor, and much much safer for the consumer. We're seeing anti-smokers going after them as if they're the same thing as cigarettes... just because they "look like cigarettes" or they "give the wrong idea" or some such nonsense.

NYC wants to ban e-cigs in all places where regular cigs are banned... simply because they "don't want to lose ground on their anti-smoking campaigns".

Brainwashing is an amazing thing.

12 posted on 12/18/2013 9:57:51 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Oldpuppymax

Thanks for posting this. I’m a nonsmoker, but never trusted a lot of this “science.”


13 posted on 12/18/2013 10:01:13 AM PST by crazycatlady
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To: Gabz

But it didn’t matter, because by virtue of being smokers, we’re “stupid” you see.


14 posted on 12/18/2013 10:05:58 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: crazycatlady
I’m a nonsmoker,but never
trusted a lot of this “science.”
back in the early '90s, the UN Committee of Health Science...
buried a report "REFUTING" the second-hand smoke science.

obliviously, the 'Toon Adm. made it disappear (it control's the UN's purse $tring)

15 posted on 12/18/2013 10:17:48 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: All

Smokers are simply drug addicts.

Any kind if smoke is toxic, and most people avoid it.

Smoking has only one purpose, to slowly poison it’s user.

Smoking only exists because it’s highly addictive. To get people “hooked”, you have to convince them to “try it”.

The only way to get people to pay big money, to slowly poison themselves is to make it look cool or somehow it makes them look tough.

Thus, only weak minded people, often the poor, smoke.

If people want to kill themselves...well it’s sad, but it’s their choice. But IT NOT THEIR CHOICE to POISON OTHERS.


16 posted on 12/18/2013 10:33:06 AM PST by OhhTee5
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To: Cementjungle

Yes, all the e-cig controversy proves that it was really about control all along. The anti-smoking fascists, if they were really about health, should be happy about e-cigs, because some people do use them as a cessation device and its a new way for smokers and nonsmokers to co-exist peaceably. I think that they’re probably safer from a fire perspective too. I don’t think people will burn to death falling asleep in an overstuffed chair with an e-cig.


17 posted on 12/18/2013 10:36:58 AM PST by crazycatlady
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To: OhhTee5
But IT NOT THEIR CHOICE to POISON OTHERS.

I guess you didn't read the article. It's all about the fact that "poisoning others" is basically a pseudo science myth.

18 posted on 12/18/2013 10:44:10 AM PST by what's up
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To: cripplecreek

My grandfather smoked for his entire adult life and it took him to an early grave at the tender age of 86.


19 posted on 12/18/2013 10:49:26 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: Cementjungle

“And now we have the e-cig revolution. No smoke, no odor, and much much safer for the consumer. We’re seeing anti-smokers going after them as if they’re the same thing as cigarettes... just because they “look like cigarettes” or they “give the wrong idea” or some such nonsense.”

Sounds a bit like the left’s jihad on “assault rifles.”


20 posted on 12/18/2013 10:51:39 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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