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Vanity: "Why aren't the Republicans at least trying to help fix Obamacare?"

Posted on 11/04/2013 5:38:25 AM PST by Junk Silver

I keep hearing this Democrat talking point being trotted out, accusing the Republicans of harming their constituents by not doing everything in their power to "fix" the Affordable Health Care Act. This one must test well in focus-groups because it keeps getting repeated. I've yet to hear one Republican answer this coherently. Here's my suggestion for a response:

"If I saw a friend's house being looted would I do everything in my power to stop the looting, or would I walk over and try to negotiate with the looters? Would I call the police and try to get some neighbors to help out, or would I see if I could persuade the looters to delay their looting by a few months, and maybe not take all of the good silverware? To anyone who believes in the principals on which this country was founded the Affordable Care Act is nothing less than government-sanctioned looting of our health care system. The Republican party's only goal is to put a stop to it, not to help it proceed more smoothly."


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: obamacare; repeal; replace; romneycare; romneycare4all; romneycare4ever; romneycare4you; talkingponts; troll
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To: Dead Corpse

Need that skull graphic for o care right here.


21 posted on 11/04/2013 5:49:30 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Junk Silver

My response would be:

You don’t fix a sewage spill — you clean it up.

The ACA is totally bad policy, substituting government planners, compulsion, and regulation for the plain American virtues of free choice, liberty and sensible law. As such the fix is the repeal that the House has passed a half dozen times already and Democrats refuse to take up in the Senate.


22 posted on 11/04/2013 5:50:40 AM PST by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.h)
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To: Junk Silver

What parts of Obamacare do you want to see “fixed”?

Which of the 16000 pages of regulations do you want to see improved?

Are you for more regulations to fix the existing ones?

Do you think the government should subsidize you so that you can afford the new rates you will be paying for the crappy insurance that is mandated?

Tell us, how can we improve Obamacare?


23 posted on 11/04/2013 5:52:53 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: A CA Guy
Which one?

This one?

Or this one?


24 posted on 11/04/2013 5:52:59 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Junk Silver

Besides being unconstitutional, Odunga-care is TOXIC.

There is a saying among the denizens of software development.

“You touch it, you own it.”

No sensible person with a view to a future in politics wants to be associated with this unconstitutional bill of enslavement, empoverishment, and destruction of modern medicine as we once knew it.


25 posted on 11/04/2013 5:54:37 AM PST by Westbrook ()Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: jersey117

They were not allowed in the room either.


26 posted on 11/04/2013 5:54:56 AM PST by bergmeid (Resist we much!)
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To: Junk Silver
Because ObamaCare is not fixable.
The "fix" for healthcare in America is to undo the last 60 years of government tinkering with the free market doctor/patient relationship.
Good luck with that.
Most people are oblivious to the origin of the problems with the economic model of healthcare and how they have manifested over that span.
How did a huge pencil-pushing middleman become established in that economic model, to extract premiums and grudgingly dole out benefits, while also benefiting from the "float" to build skyscapers?
They only serve to increase the cost in a multitude of ways.
Then consider the parasitic nature of malpractice insurance/law-suits and the multitude of ways that government-protected revenue source for trial layers raises healthcare costs.
Und Tort Reform ist verboten.
As always government creates the problems, then rides in with move government solutions that only serve to make the situation even worse.
27 posted on 11/04/2013 5:54:57 AM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Junk Silver

Didn’t some famous RHINO once say “If you break it you own it?”.


28 posted on 11/04/2013 5:55:56 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Junk Silver
Sometimes, the only solution to fix something is to destroy it and start completely over.

For example, when your computer has a nasty virus (i.e. 0bamacare), the only solution is to completely erase your hard drive and start over.

29 posted on 11/04/2013 5:56:57 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Junk Silver

The only way to ‘fix’ Slavery was to repeal it.


30 posted on 11/04/2013 5:58:11 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Junk Silver

Why in the world would anyone support something that is a death wish for hundreds of thousands of Americans. It needs to be killed I say before it kills you and I. Just think of the 70 year old widow who is in the middle of a cancer treatment regime with her personal doctor and goes to her mailbox each day in “deathly” fear that today may be the day she receives her ‘death warrant’ in the mail?


31 posted on 11/04/2013 5:59:06 AM PST by iontheball
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To: Junk Silver
The Democrats do not want the Republicans(or anyone else) to fix Obamacare. Obama was written in secret and passed through a series of dishonest and corrupt deals. The Louisiana Purchase and the Cornhusker kickback were just a few. Most of the Senators and Representatives who voted for the law never read it. The Obamacare bill was provided to legislators late at night a few hours before the vote with no explanations.

Everyone who understood it said it could not possibly work.

The purpose of Obamacare is to destroy the greatest health care system in the history of the world and replace it with a government controlled single payer system. Obamacare is meant to fail. When speaking to their supporters Democrats describe Obamacare as a first step towards government control of the health care industry.

Democrats and their agents in the MSM dishonestly say they want to “fix” Obamacare. They want Republicans involved so that they can blame them for the failures of Obamacare.

The purpose of Obamacare is for the politicians and Democrat operatives to control all health care funds and all health care decisions and take no responsibility for the failures of the the system.

In short, they take your money then they decide whether or not you or your family are allowed to get treatment.

The Democrats want you to have beg them for access to medical care if you or someone in your family children gets sick.

32 posted on 11/04/2013 5:59:11 AM PST by detective
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To: Junk Silver

because the market will do it if given a chance

“plans” and “programs” are not the answer


33 posted on 11/04/2013 6:01:30 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Junk Silver

The GOP offered dozens of amendments when this thing was being debated, all were summarily rejected.


34 posted on 11/04/2013 6:02:48 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Junk Silver

A car that’s worth $10,000 gets totaled. It will cost $25,000 to fix it, after which it will be worth $10,000. Shame on those who would argue against spending the $25k.


35 posted on 11/04/2013 6:03:03 AM PST by privatedrive
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To: Junk Silver

I wouldn’t help this U.S. hating president fix a flat tire.

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36 posted on 11/04/2013 6:04:33 AM PST by Mears (Liberalism is the art of being easily offended.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Skull is the one. Perfect for the effect of Obamacare on us all, especially with the death panels.
37 posted on 11/04/2013 6:04:38 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: detective
Indeed, that is it goal - to deny medical care to those who oppose or have opposed them.

From Atlas Shrugged:

"Nobody can divide a factory’s income among thousands of people, without some sort of a gauge to measure people’s value. Her gauge was bootlicking. Selfless? In her father’s time, all of his money wouldn’t have given him a chance to speak to his lousiest wiper and get away with it, as she spoke to our best skilled workers and their wives. She had pale eyes that looked fishy, cold and dead. And if you ever want to see pure evil, you should have seen the way her eyes glinted when she watched some man who’d talked back to her once and who’d just heard his name on the list of those getting nothing above basic pittance. And when you saw it, you saw the real motive of any person who’s ever preached the slogan: ‘From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.’"

38 posted on 11/04/2013 6:04:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Junk Silver
If you could only understand that Obamascare is all about wealth confiscation, then you would understand there is nothing to fix.
39 posted on 11/04/2013 6:05:22 AM PST by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: Junk Silver

The way to fix it is to get the government out of the healthcare/insurance business. Don’t turn health insurance into a welfare program either


40 posted on 11/04/2013 6:05:32 AM PST by GeronL
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