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Do they know something or are they planting the seeds for a flase flag????
1 posted on 09/23/2013 4:47:24 PM PDT by Kartographer
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Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 09/23/2013 4:48:02 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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That’s why I have a million, Kujillion bat-trees that are rechargeable and fifty different ways to make flame.

I even have a basketball, which I’ve named “Wilson” as it was conveniently logo’d.(Soccer isn’t an American sport)


3 posted on 09/23/2013 4:51:09 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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The solar powered lights people use to line the drive way and side walk are very handy.

And don’t count on any solar cells from harbor freight.


4 posted on 09/23/2013 4:51:51 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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This is really gonna screw with some of Holder’s people: the ones that sit on their front stoop in the street light until 3:00 AM and sleep until noon.
Unless they start wandering the streets in the dark searching for brains and and ...


6 posted on 09/23/2013 4:56:56 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives. Proud anarchist, 2013)
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My life woutl be fine if I could figure out how to get the water out of my well, artesian.


8 posted on 09/23/2013 4:57:49 PM PDT by Chickensoup (...We didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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Someone's been looking at my disconnect notice...

/johnny

14 posted on 09/23/2013 5:04:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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I've bookmarked that website for when that day comes!


16 posted on 09/23/2013 5:07:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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The Muzzie prez is trying to bring down the grid by attacking coal via the EPA. With 50% less energy from coal, there will be higher prices and brownouts at the very least. No need to conjure up conspiracy theories, it’s all out in the open.
I guess I’ll need another solar Yeti.


18 posted on 09/23/2013 5:08:27 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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The books “Going Home” and “Surviving Home” by A. American have an interesting viewpoint on the power grid outage besides being a very good read.


21 posted on 09/23/2013 5:10:42 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Excessive numbers of coincidences are known as patterns.)
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a natural disaster — the likes of which the nation has never seen — is also likely on its way

What else besides an approaching asteroid striking, a calamity unexperienced, could they accurately predict?

23 posted on 09/23/2013 5:13:32 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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If there is an emp nobody except those in the immediate area will know what happened. Nothing electrical will work and that includes battery powered radios AND radio stations.

I’ve got enough food for my wife and me to last about 6 weeks. We’ve got lighters, batteries, first aid. We don’t have enough sanitation supplies or water. I’ve got about 30 gallons but they’re only good for flushing the toilette. I’ve got to get some more.

And I’ve got 1000 rounds to protect what I do have.

Is it coming. Of course, it is. Someday.


24 posted on 09/23/2013 5:14:23 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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Lately I’ve been hearing emergency prep warnings to have at least 2 weeks of supplies on hand, not the usual 72 hours.

Government websites still say 72 hours, but the commercials are saying 2 weeks...and they are highlighting water.


28 posted on 09/23/2013 5:17:39 PM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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I am having a hard time laying my hands on enough medicine to let me survive a shtf event, rven though my doctor is also a prepper and is willing to write me all the prescriptions I need. The meds are expensive, and no there is no generic. I have a bad feeling that even with a lot of stored stuff, ammunition, skills, and a good location, I wouldn’t last long, just because of medical issues. Of course, not everyone is going to make it, and I’m in my late fifties so I don’t have much to complain about.


34 posted on 09/23/2013 5:47:43 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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I have been saying it for the longest time. There is going to be a two pronged attack.
The Chinese and Iran via jihadi sleeper cells in the US.
The Chinese will launch a cyber attack.
That will bring the power down for a few hours. If they just did the cyber attack, then it would only a few hours until the companies can bring everything up manually after they shut down and disconnect the automated control equipment that the Chinese attacked.

But, while the grid is down for that short period of time, then the jihadis will strike.
They will sabotage vital infrastructure across many places at the same time which will make it impossible to bring the power back up.
They will cut light poles. Cut supports to transmission line towers. Destroy insulators in substations.
They will do it in remote locations so that it will take days searching the lines to find where the faults are.
When there is only one fault on an isolated line, then power companies can concentrate manpower to find the fault relatively quickly.
When you have multiple faults that appear all over the system, then it will thin out the manpower, and it will take a lot longer to locate the faults and repair them.

If they continue to sabotage things as the light companies try to repair the existing damage, then it can drag on for a very long time. Before they get one problem fixed, then the next problem will pop up.

If you have thousands of jihadis all across the country start cutting things down, then it would be impossible to keep up.

They found out that it was very effective in Iraq. People went for months without power because they were cutting the poles faster than they could put them up. In Iraq, it was easy to find where the system was sabotaged because of the baron terrain. But in the US, there is a lot more vegetation, and complicated terrain that the power systems go through. Trying to find where someone cut a pole along the back side of a ridge where no one can see it is impossible unless you physically walk the line.

If that happens, then the local people that are familiar with the local system and terrain will have to help out if you want any hope of getting control of the situation. Keep your eyes out for obvious sabotage. If you see it, report it as fast as possible Keep a watch on the power lines in your area. If you see a stranger that isn’t from the area hanging around the mainline, or doing something out of place, then get a hold of law enforcement as fast as possible. If you see them actively messing with something or obviously getting ready to cut/knock a pole down (bolt cutters and chainsaws) then you will know what to do.
Pull out the gun and calmly tell them to “Put the equipment down, lay down and wait until the law gets there or you will be shot.”

Keep in mind, if you see something odd going on. You want to have your weapon with you, because jihadis being jihadis, they will be armed and will try and kill the nosey infidel if they are caught in the act.
If they put guns on you, then drop them.

The people that help will be taking a risk, but the population at large will have to confront the people doing it if they are to be stopped. There isn’t enough cops and linemen to keep watch on every foot of mainline in this country, so the population that lives on that mainline will have to help.

I would say that after a few days of no lights, and after the word gets out about what is happening, then I would say that people will start taking the initiative on their own to guard the network

The thing I worry about is what will they do once they have the power down? What is stage two of the attack when the population is in an information vacuum? What do they plan when the population is already in a state of distress from several days of no power?


38 posted on 09/23/2013 6:28:10 PM PDT by Rage cat
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May those in Washington be the first to have their cozy offices go dead in the winter.

They can all freeze and starve to death for all I care.


40 posted on 09/23/2013 6:32:03 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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We definately need to update the ‘internet is down’ ping list.


41 posted on 09/23/2013 6:33:49 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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I have my own well (7 inch steel casing) and the water level is at about 75 feet below grade. It has always occurred to me that in an extended emergency, I could disconnect and haul out my electrical submersible pump and then design something that could be used to haul out pails of water by hand. Alternatively, I’m wondering if there is some sort of positive displacement pump that could be dropped into the well but operated at ground level by hand using ropes. I would just transfer over the pipe from the electrical submersible pump to this temporary one to bring up the water. Has anyone ever seen this done? It would seem that the problem would be to keep the pump stable so that it wouldn’t be flopping all over the place since it would just be suspended at the end of a heavy duty plastic pipe.


48 posted on 09/23/2013 6:53:11 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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“Do they know something or are they planting the seeds for a false flag????”

Who knows? I don't know what others will do to cause trouble or what nature will do, but I do know what I can do and did. I have a solar panel and charger and rechargeable batteries to last a few years and will have light and running fans, and heat and food and ways to cook, plenty of water, medical supplies, toilet supplies, personal sanitation and security.

What I don't have is “booze”, as in liquor. Guess while others are robbing grocery stores, I'll hit the liquor store. (that is a joke) :o)

50 posted on 09/23/2013 7:11:16 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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We’ve got four 1000 watt, fully charged batteries in the boat, one in the jeep that isn’t being used, and we can use one of them from my truck, along with the boat’s rectifier. We also have a generator and about 70 gallons of fuel, counting what is in cans and the boat. We can use camp stoves for cooking, or the wood stove. We have about fifty full cords of wood cut and split. There are a lot of flashlight batteries and wind up flashlights, plus gas lights, so I think we will get by, as long as it doesn’t last more than a couple of weeks.


62 posted on 09/23/2013 7:43:46 PM PDT by pallis
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Normalcy bias. Sure, it won't happen here. The federal and state governments have it all under control...

...until a democrat controlled inner city starts to eat itself. Literally, and figuratively.

My guess is either Detroit or Oakland will see federal troops first. Maybe Camden or Baltimore?

Well, I don't know. Maybe we should start a "Dead Pool."

Oh, and just a Friendly reminder, the federal troops will fire on civilians. Trust me, it has happened a few times since I've been on this planet.

5.56mm

64 posted on 09/23/2013 7:48:15 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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