Posted on 06/17/2013 4:48:33 AM PDT by LD Jackson
I'll be the first to admit I have not followed the current attempt to pass immigration reform as closely as I should. I have focused on other issues and between that and me having a real life, immigration reform has been on the back burner for me. Not that it isn't important, but other things have taken precedent. That doesn't mean I am not aware that the powers that be in both parties are trying to force a bad bill down our throats.
I almost feel sorry for Marco Rubio. I am certain he started off with good intentions. He has said all along that border security has to come first, but the gang of Senators he joined to work on immigration reform seemed to have other ideas. As it has been for decades, their idea of immigration reform is to transform the millions of illegal immigrants in America into legal residents, overnight. That's where they want to start and everything else comes second. I can't help but wonder if border security even enters into the equation for someone like John McCain and Lindsey Graham.
Senator Graham seems to be trying to get out in front of the debate, but he is doing so in a most asinine manner. I'll let you read what he said for yourself.
Fox News - "After eight years of President Obama's economic policies, and quite frankly foreign policy, people are going to be looking around," he said. "But if we don't pass immigration reform, if we don't get it off the table in a reasonable, practical way, it doesn't matter who you run in 2016. We're in a demographic death spiral as a party and the only way we can get back in good graces with the Hispanic community in my view is pass comprehensive immigration reform. If you don't do that, it really doesn't matter who we run."In those few short sentences, Senator Lindsey Graham shows us exactly where his priorities are. He is less interested in what is good for America than he is in what is good for the Republican Party. I can't help but question the wisdom of the good people in South Carolina who continue to send him back to Washington. He sounds firmly convinced that the GOP is dead on arrival in 2016, if they fail to vote for immigration reform, in whatever fashion or form it comes before them. Is this another time when we have to accept what the liberals propose? Are we going into a cycle similar to the debt ceiling and budget debates, where the GOP will be blamed for whatever happens, no matter what the real circumstances are? I would suggest that Senator Graham needs to wise up to the tactics being employed by the liberal Democrats in his esteemed body of legislators.
Is what the good Senator from South Carolina is saying true? Ever since the election in November 2012, we have heard how the GOP has to be more inclusive. The main focus of that inclusion has been Hispanic voters. The media and the leaders of the GOP act as if that is a foregone conclusion. I question if that is really the case and I am not the only one. Allow me to use the words someone who has already done the research.
Sentry Journal - From the moment Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election the left with the help of the mainstream media has been shaping and advancing the narrative that the reason the Republicans cannot win elections is because theyre losing more and more of the Latino vote due to their position on immigration reform. They claim that the more Republicans stand against immigration reform the more they will lose the Latino vote. But how can you lose something you never had to begin with? This narrative that the left is pushing is completely false and its real purpose is to place enough doubt about the trend of the Latino vote in the minds of Republican leaders so they will act out of fear and pass an immigration bill that grants backdoor amnesty without border security. Once again the Republicans have failed to do their homework and are dancing to the tune the Democrats are playing. So lets break it down and explain why this narrative is false.You should go and read the rest of the post from Sentry Journal. John Carey lays it out exactly as it is. Even though the GOP is closer to Hispanics on social issues, ie. abortion, homosexuality, religion, etc., they have never captured the majority of Hispanic voters. I do not believe that will change, just because they choose to support an immigration reform bill that is seriously flawed. Even if we threw ourselves to the wolves and granted amnesty to every illegal immigrant in America, with no future promise of border security, the demographics will likely remain the same. The GOP needs to do what is right for America and forget about the demographics. Doing anything less will surely move us into irrelevancy, permanently.In order to lose something you must first possess it. The Republicans cant lose the Latino vote because they have never possessed it. Lets take a trip back in time in Mr. Peabodys Way Back Machine to the 1976 Presidential Election. Latinos made up a meager one percent of the electorate, but voted overwhelmingly for Jimmy Carter. Carter garnered 83 percent while the Republican candidate Gerald Ford managed to capture only 18 percent of the Latino vote. Remember this election was the first election after the end of the Vietnam War, Nixon resigning in disgrace, and terrible economic times. Four years of Carter brought us the Misery Index, high inflation, high unemployment, the Iran hostage crisis and a military force that was rapidly deteriorating.
As bad is things were in 1980, Jimmy Carter still managed to capture 56 percent of the Latino vote as compared to the 35 percent Ronald Reagan received; a Democratic advantage of 21 percentage points in bad times. In fact the highest percentage President Reagan ever achieved was 37 percent in 1984. These numbers would not improve in the future.
Lindsay Graham is the poster child for the GOP’s death spiral.
Wow.
He took time off from helping al Qaeda
to say this.
Must be very important to HIM.
Personally, I don’t see anything wrong with the GOP going into a “death spiral”. I will be voting only for conservative Americans from here on out anyway. They have been thrown out of the GOP.
“But if we don’t pass immigration reform, if we don’t get it off the table in a reasonable, practical way,”
And that is what it has been always about with the Stupid Party.
“If something is falling, give it a shove.” Nietzsche
“Blocking Immigration Reform Would Be GOP Death Spiral, So Says Lindsey Graham”
Well then, just die already.
..and WHY do we want to save the GOP (as it is now) ??
Rubio is a cunning snake and pathological liar not naive .
Marko killed any illegal legislation in the Fl Senate time after time.
Last week this snake met in secret with the K street drunk
Bonehead to cook up a strategy to ram it thou the house .
Rubio is bold face liar and a K street stooge but amnesty is his baby .
He added a pro ion that give Cuban illegals full benefits and citizenship immediately in the bill !
Do not be fooled by him
Principled people would do what they must do, no matter what the consequences or outcome. What is the RIGHT thing for America.
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What did Presidents Hoover , Truman, and Eisenhower have in common?
This is something that should be of great interest for you to pass around. I didn’t know of this until it was pointed out to me.
Back during the great depression, Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work.
Harry Truman deported over two million illegal aliens after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans.
In 1954 Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexicans. The program was called Operation Wetback. It was done so WWII and Korean War veterans would have a better chance at jobs. It took two years, but they deported them!
Now, if they could deport the illegal aliens back then, they could surely do it today. If you have doubts about the veracity of this information, enter Operation Wetback into your favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself.
Why, you might ask, can’t they do this today? Actually the answer is quite simple. Hoover , Truman, and Eisenhower were men of honor, not untrustworthy politicians looking for votes!
Reminder: Don’t forget to pay your taxes - 12 to 20 million illegal aliens - are depending on it.
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Heh.
Too late, Linda.
Either way GOP loses big.
The demonRATS have them pegged on this one.
* If the “immigration reform” bill fails, the GOP is the big, bad meany and will lose elections.
* If the “immigration reform” bill passes, we immediately get 11 to 20 million new demonRAT voters.
And don’t believe for a microsecond that they will be prevented from voting.
I’ll venture that a lot of them are voting already, anyway.
But either way, win or lose, “immigration reform” will finish the GOP once and for all.
We will be reduced to a one-party communist system, a-la 20th Century Soviet Empire.
I would hope so. The longer conservatives wait to supplant the Republican party the less likely they will sweep the present crew out of Washington.
Yes he is and if they pass this thing, I’m done with Repugnants.
Morever, why should we cow tow and cater to illegal aliens from these countries?? Why??
What GOOD are these people to us? You mean to tell me we are to bend over backwards to get into their good graces?
THIS is what Graham is essentially saying.
So, myself, an American whose ancestors have been here at least 150 years now, who helped build and fight for this country, have to cow tow and bend over to some freaking illiterate peasant who will come here and ask EVERYTHING of me to get a leg up in this country ...perhaps even kill and harm fellow Americans in the process?? Steal from us, steal our social security funds, our numbers, etc? Ruin our hospitals, our cities, our schools? Our communities?
These people should be begging US. Instead we are ushering them in as if they are some kind of royalty. It’s DISGUSTING.
Graham simply wants to make THEM the royalty and YOU the slave ... so HE can be royalty, too.
Its criminal. Graham and his ilk are criminals. I have no idea how we tolerate this pig or others like him!!!!
Screw that.
I am not voting for Gomez in Massachusetts, and I am not voting for half a Republican in 2014 or 2016 or any time thereafter. I am DONE!
NEVER AGAIN!
I almost feel sorry for Marco Rubio. I am certain he started off with good intentions.
There is no evidence that he had good intentions. It’s just what liberals do.
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