Immigration bill to bring in at least 33 million people, says group

The Daily Caller ^ | 04/26/2013 | Neil Munro

[Jet Jaguar]

The pending Senate immigration bill would bring a minimum of 33 million people into the country during its first decade of operation, according to an analysis by NumbersUSA, a group that wants to slow the current immigration rate.

By 2024, the inflow would include an estimated 9.2 million illegal immigrants, plus 2.5 million illegals who arrived as children — dubbed ‘Dreamers’ — plus roughly 3.4 million company-sponsored employees with university degrees, said the unreleased analysis.

The majority of the inflow, or roughly 17 million people, would consist of family members of illegals, recent immigrants and of company-sponsored workers, according to the NumbersUSA analysis provided to The Daily Caller.

The estimate is likely the first of several that will be produced by advocates as the Senate grapples with the immigration bill developed by the “Gang of Eight” senators.

The 844-page bill was released last week, and was scheduled for debate and amendment in the Senate’e judiciary committee starting April 25. However, the amendment process was held up for a week by Republican Senators, who said they need more time to study the complex bill.

Advocates for the bill have yet to release any estimates of the future inflow.

“Nobody has a number that is based on the bill right now that’s accurate,” Lynn Tramonte, deputy director of the pro-immigration America’s Voice Education Fund, told the Christian Science Monitor in an April 25 article. “It’ll take a bit more [analysis] to get a specific number about how things will change.”

A high inflow could prove to be a political problem for the bill’s advocates.

[ronnie raygun]

And new gun bill pushed will lessen the time an illegal can aquire a fire arm

[Erik Latranyi]

Liberals despise companies that outsource their labor to other nations.

Yet, liberals have no problem outsourcing US jobs to criminal border-crossers who have no desire to become American citizens.

Most of the illegal aliens are like locusts, traveling to the country that turns a blind eye to them while they consume everything in sight.....jobs, healthcare, education, etc.

Once this nation is consumed, they will move on to the next opportunity.

[FreedomStar3028]

Seriously, governors of border states should give these immigrants what they want.

They should impose mexican laws, and give the states to Mexicans.

The Americans will cry in horror and throw them out.

[rdcbn]

11 million is lower than the 12 million estimate that they have been using since 1998 or so.

It’s more like 30-45 million

[Truth29]

"The politicians on this have done no research. NO thinking no consideration."

Maybe they have thought it through and this is the outcome they want because they are a combination of bought and paid for crooks, view themselves as the ruling elites who will be served by the teaming masses, or old fashioned American haters who want to bring down the country.

[mosesdapoet]

-—— Original Message -——
From: Lee Keslin
To: McClellan, Jon (Cruz)
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:52 PM
Subject: Rebuttal mexico

AMNESTY TWO ISSUES NEVER TOUCHED

ACTIVE FR’S IF YOU SEE ANY CREDITABLE REPORTS OF PROBLEMS AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE HAVING WHILE LIVING IN MEXICO PLEASE POST THEM.....

(1) When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ? And two other questions US legislators should ask

Here are three questions:that has yet to appear on any US legislator’s questionaire from either chamber

ASK YOUR FEDERAL LEGISLATORS WHY THEY HAVEN’T

Issue One

!...Should Mexican citizens when in the US be given the same rights American citizens are given while in Mexico? .......Americans entering Mexico illegally get shipped back post haste

2.. The Mexican government through public statements and educational system lays claims to major portions or all to some of our southwestern states as part of the Mexican nation . Are we asking for trouble by granting their illegals an expressed path to our citizenship laying the groundwork for “squatters rights” at some future date ?

3... If it is deemed necessary to supplement the US labor force by allowing itinerant labor should the individual states make the determiniation as to the number should the offer being needed ? And should that offer not be restricted simply to Mexican nationals but to other central and south American countries as well ?

Issue 2

What makes it necessary for US to subjugate our sovereignty because of available cheap labor ? While the Godless Demo-Coms socialists encourage population control and abortion . Then complain the US is not reproducing enough citizens to replace its aging retiring workforce. But rely on as the Romans did on foreigners (barbarians) .to keep their welfare ponzie schemes supplied with tax money and keep the system working.....

On the Mexican problem

Ever hear of reciprocal aggrements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.

Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.

Americans can’t own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash they’ll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the “fresh”. That’s just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea let’s give Mexican citizens that right (over other countries from south American tying up their quotas) when American citizens vote in their elections .

[freekitty]

I have a great idea. Why don’t these people clean up their own countries?

[jimsin]

WAIT A MINUTE HERE...WHAT'S THIS?:

'The pending Senate immigration bill would bring a minimum of 33 million people into the country during its first decade of operation.estimated 9.2 million illegal immigrants, plus 2.5 million illegals who arrived as children — dubbed ‘Dreamers’ — plus roughly 3.4 million company-sponsored employees with university degrees, said the unreleased analysis. 33 EFFIN MILLION? AND ONLY 3.4 WITH UNIVERSITY DEGREES? HUH?..... PSST WE DONT NEED MORE sure fire welfarers....

As USUAL ANNIE COULTER EXPLAINS IT ALL.....(and bye the bye shouldn't this elucidation appear on 9 out of 10 Conservative Congressmen's blogs?)

WHAT WOULD WE DO WITHOUT ANN'S GENIUS columns.....?

ANN'S rightly concerned that were're gettin boatloads of those TSARNAEV jaspers! WHAT THE HELL KIND OF A DEAL IS THAT?

READ THIS: 'we're told Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (of the Back Bay Tsarnaevs) were disaffected "losers" -- the word used by their own uncle -- who couldn't make it in America. Their father had already returned to Russia. Tamerlan had dropped out of college, been arrested for domestic violence and said he had no American friends. Dzhokhar was failing most of his college courses. All of them were on welfare. (Dzhokhar was given everything America had to offer, and now he only has one thing in his future to look forward to ... a tenured professorship.)

My thought is, maybe we should consider admitting immigrants who can succeed in America, rather than deadbeats. But we're not allowed to "discriminate" in favor of immigrants who would be good for America. Instead of helping America, our immigration policies are designed to help other countries solve their internal problems by shipping their losers to us. The problem isn't just illegal immigration. I would rather have doctors and engineers sneaking into the country than legally arriving ditch-diggers. Teddy Kennedy's 1965 immigration act so dramatically altered the kinds of immigrants America admits that, since 1969, about 85 percent of legal immigrants have come from the Third World. They bring Third World levels of poverty, fertility, illegitimacy and domestic violence with them. When they can't make it in America, they simply go on welfare and sometimes strike out at Americans.

[JCBreckenridge]

Immigration - citizenship = slavery, FWIW. It’s a losing position.

Either no immigration or full citizenship. Taxing without representation will destroy the republic long term.

[Wonder Warthog]

"And the great American experiment in Liberty dies."

Didn't die. Was murdered. With malice aforethought.

[servantboy777]

>>And the great American experiment in Liberty dies.<<

Not yet! Not yet! Americans still have lots to lose...when the corner is turned and Americans see they no longer have anything to lose but their country, then you'll see folks really speaking their minds.

It's kinda like a guy kneeling over a lil pile of brush attempting to start a fire with two pieces of flint. Just a matter of time when the fire catches.

[servantboy777]

One further thought.

GOP....why?

If we keep fishing from the same ol pond, were gonna keep catchin the same ol big mouth bass.

We gotta change what were doin y'all. There's only a handful of folks in the party who still can be considered conservative constitutionalists.

Time and again the notion of changing the party from the inside utilizing the primary process has failed. Sure, one-zy, two-zy we pick up a good representative, then we lose a couple.

Turncoats like McCain, Graham, Bohner, remain firmly in control. We keep fighting the same battle for the party all the while the socialist gain ground little by little until...now.

Third party seems to always be foo foo’d. Any thoughts?

[3Fingas]

Slavery is not voluntary. Illegal aliens were not forced to come or stay here. They can always leave any time they want to leave. If people want to immigrate here, they must respect our laws. If they want to work here without becoming a citizen, they need a work visa. Giving amnesty to 30-50 million people who were formerly illegal aliens or immediate family members of illegal aliens will be catastrophic to the long term health of our republic.

[KeyLargo]

Jailed jihad terrorists to be set free in weeks

By Tom Whitehead, Security Editor

10:00PM BST 26 Apr 2013

Four members of the group, who travelled to Pakistan for training in terrorism, will be free within three months after being jailed for 40 months.

The 11-strong al-Qaeda inspired gang from Birmingham wanted to use eight suicide bombers in attacks that could have left thousands dead

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10020341/Jailed-jihad-terrorists-to-be-set-free-in-weeks.html

[FES0844]

Perhaps Obama will make it the 58th state?

[upchuck]

I am unwilling to entertain any sort of immigration bill that does not start with demonstrated enforcement and a big wall along the border where it is practicable.

Ya mean like this?

That wall is in Israel. They know how to do it right.

[headstamp 2]

Was listening to Graham lie through his teeth to Hannity on the radio yesterday. Hannity was too busy kissing his ass to ask any serious questions about it.

[JCBreckenridge]

I agree, which is why you deport them. There is a path to citizenship. There doesn’t need to be another.

Letting them stay and sanctioning it just so long as there is no path to citizenship is foolish.

[stanne]

Well, perhaps so.

But I was thinking more in a philosophical sense, as in, they swore to God they would protect and defend the Constitution and this doesn’t fit that model.

Lisa Douglas isn’t a good analogy, then; she’s not a villain.

Eddie Haskell, then, but he’s too smart.

[lowbridge]

The pending Senate immigration bill would bring a minimum of 33 million people into the country during its first decade of operation

After they're here, where are their jobs and health care supposed to come from?