Posted on 01/28/2013 11:33:35 AM PST by ethical
On January 10, 2013 the Washington State Supreme Court fined Linda Jordan almost $13,000 because she legally challenged Barack Obama's use of forged identity documents: A fake birth certificate and phony Social Security Number.
Jordan wanted the original records to be produced for comparison. Why did Jordan want to see Obama’s real ID?
• The Maricopa County Sheriff Department has presented credible evidence that the birth certificate Barack Obama posted on the White House website on April 27, 2011 was forged. (Maricopa County Sheriff Department 602.876.1801) • Jordan’s own research confirmed that Hawaii law requires signatures on birth certificates to be in permanent ink. The signature of Obama’s mother, on his purported 1961 birth certificate, is partly ink and partly a computer created signature. This compilation means the signature was forged. • Ohio Private Investigator Susan Daniels has confirmed that the Social Security Number Obama is using was previously issued to someone else. SSN’s are NEVER re-issued.
Obama used this fake ID to prove he was eligible to be President. It got him on the ballot and into the White House. This is fraud in the least, treason at worst.
“I filed the lawsuit because I fear for America’s future. A serious crime has been committed right in front of us and federal agents turned a blind eye to it. There is substantial evidence that Barack Obama is using fraudulent identity documents. The court ignored this evidence and sanctioned me with almost $13,000 in fines for exercising my right to request an evidentiary hearing. They labeled my concerns "frivolous". Surely Americans have the right to confirm if Obama used fake ID to gain access to the White House.” Linda Jordan
http://www.obamaforgeries.com
Almost but not quite.... The founding fathers were also concerned with "Tyranny of the Majority". Read the federalist papers and you will be informed. That is why we have the rule of law. Example.... When the majority realizes that they can vote money for themselves from the rich, they may even elect an ineligible president!!!
""""....the public has remained hugely unswayed by the ineligibility arguments. There is no groundswell of support, there is no rising up in protest......""""
If the press is not reporting any facts from our side, how can people make up their minds??? They don't even know any of the ineligibility arguments. When I talk about this issue, the vast majority of people are not aware of any details at all....really.... They just dismiss everything I say because I must be one of those crazy birthers.
Look, we have 3 branches of government and the rule of law. Yes, you guys are correct in that there is no specific constitutional requirement to show a birth certificate. However, if a Birth certificate is presented on a government website paid for by you and I AND it is an obvious fraud, well then, a serious crime has been committed. And that is what the courts are for. It is not so complicated.
I HOPE SHE FIGHTS THIS ALL THE WAY
Orly Taitz is a hero. Stop bad-mouthing her. She is agressively pursuing this issue where no one else is.
Your theory of "Onaka's evasive answers means Obama is legally unqualified" does not mean "America is dead". You do have ample evidence that the "two" party system has failed and we won't have any substantive challenges to possible unconstitutional actions. Also we can all agree the Christian culture that America created has been beaten down and is on life support.
That still doesn't mean that America is dead. It doesn't mean that Obama's actions can't be rolled back through the political process. It might be a long four years, but it is no time for fatalism. First, you are not a lawyer and your legal theories are untested at the very least. Second, you are not the conservative leader we need to get us out of this mess.
Orly Taitz is not a hero. She’s a lunatic attention whore who single-handedly destroyed any credibility the eligibility issue ever had. Aggressively pursuing something when you’re as incompetent as Orly Taitz is as useful as charging hell with a bucket of ice water - or tits on a boar hog - take your pick.
Congress is hostage. They are not going to be able to fight Obama’s agenda in these 4 years. They will continue to bow to Soros’ wishes. Unless somebody can be convinced to go rogue. I don’t know. Maybe Ted Cruz will. But this trying to only say and do stuff that gets you media popularity will be the death of America if it keeps on. It is time for serious resistance based on what’s REALLY going on and not based on the Baghdad Bob parallel universe that the uninformed and “useful idiots” are living in.
Sharp public blowback still has the ability to stop Obama, for now. If the public is aware of the treacherous position we’re in, it will make things more difficult for Obama. He would rather kill us in our sleep than when we are alert, prepared, and fighting. I’ve said elsewhere that Obama’s big problem may be that the coup is taking too long. He doesn’t want to do the final leg of it until he’s got us disarmed, but to disarm this country can only be done in a short time period if something cataclysmic happens; otherwise the people will see him for who he is and resist.
And that is why they bother to have trolls placed in places like Free Republic. It’s why they try to Alinsky any little boy who says the emperor is naked - so the “respectable people” will all laugh and call us simpletons as if they really WERE villains if they see the naked truth about Obama like the rest of us, instead of the fine, elegant clothes he’s SAID to be wearing.
At this point those who buy into the “if you think Obama is a foreign enemy combatant you’re a crazy conspiracist” political/media mantra are perpetuating the myth that only villains and rogues can’t see Obama’s fine apparel. Obama needs that myth to be perpetuated; that’s why Soros has overseen these threats and murders. You and I haven’t been threatened so blatantly yet. We are the ones who still can say the emperor is naked, and refuse to accept the “magic clothes” myth propagated by ridicule. We have to stand on our own to do this, because the “conservative heroes” we want to defend this country for us have already largely been taken out of this battle by the threats.
So if we are to work within the system, it is critical that we shed the “magic clothes” myth and let the world know we don’t give a hoot what the Baghdad Bob political-media complex calls us; we’re going to clearly say what we see and let the chips fall where they will. That’s what I’m trying to do here. That’s the only kind of leadership I’ll ever be able to show, but at least I can do that. That’s why I will not let the logical fallacies go unexposed, and why “Nyeah, you lose” will never change my mind. Evidence changes my mind. That’s the standard we have to uphold because anything less than that is deadly to this country.
All that being said - how I approach the battle if we play within the system - I do believe he’s been setting things up for a cataclysmic blow that neither guns nor the political process would be able to defend against:: either an EMP attack or a biological WMD attack (or maybe both). But just as I’ve done this whole election season, I have fought on within the system in the hopes that my theories about how far the treachery goes are wrong. I very earnestly hope they are wrong.
My major focus at this point is that we should be prepared for anything, because we are in a lawless condition. We effectively have no Constitution and have no rule of law. We have a foreign enemy combatant controlling the entire system and he’s been arming the system and our enemies to fight us. So make sure that you’ve got the stuff you need for whatever happens - provisions for this earthly life to the extent that you can, and salvation for what comes after this life. Love your family in every way that you can, while you can. If you’ve got time and energy after that to try to salvage this country, go for it.
She’s a woman who recognizes what is at stake and is frantic to do something about it. Unfortunately, she is overcommitted so she is botching the process and that does hurt the cause. Part of that is probably because she knows that if you put all your eggs in one basket, that basket can very easily be targeted by the all-powerful fox and the eggs eaten up. That’s what happens when people who should be HELPING regain the rule of law instead aid and abet the fox by ridiculing those who bring forward the evidence.
I don’t answer for what Taitz has done. I only answer for what *I* have done. And there are a lot of people who will need to answer for what they have done.
What she recognizes is the ability to get attention. If she truly sought a remedy through the courts, she would not have rejected the help of competent attorneys in the beginning. Now they won’t touch her and I don’t blame them.
Yeah, she’s over-committed all right ... over-committed to seeking attention. She needs to be committed ... to a mental institution. It’s all about Orly. I can’t count the number of times she’s misinterpreted simple judicial procedure as a win or progress.
“I will get Obama’s deposition 30 days from now.”
“The judge agreed with me.”
“The court agreed to hear my case on the merits.”
“Look at me! Look at me! I don’t know what the hell I’m doing but keep looking!”
Incompetent, lunatic, attention-whore.
As for you? I think you have good intentions. I also think you have stated as fact that which is conjecture. We agree to disagree on a few things. I suspect Orly Taitz is one of them.
True, but I don't recommend that for some issues. For example, I work with my real identity to promote the responsibility of gun ownership. I fight against the media-manufactured image of gun ownership being out of the mainstream.
My major focus at this point is that we should be prepared for anything, because we are in a lawless condition. We effectively have no Constitution and have no rule of law.
In one area.
If you've got time and energy after that to try to salvage this country, go for it.
Everyone should. It does not take a lot of time to become prepared for most outcomes. Remember that there are at least two BHO's. The one that grew up with American communist ideals morphed into a kind of European socialism. He can be contained albeit with difficulty. The second is the one put into power by various players (not really monolithic) to derail American capitalism and freedom. Those changes may not be stoppable within the democratic system as it is currently configured. I choose mostly to fight BHO the man and his policies, not BHO the puppet. The latter is too amorphous, too much shadow boxing for my taste.
As many know Linda Jordan was sanctioned $13,000 for challenging Obama's identity document fraud and his placement on the state of Washington's ballot. Linda reached out to many attorneys seeking advice on what she could do about the unjust fees levied against her. Only one was brave enough to step up to the plate and take on her case. His name is Richard B. Sanders from the Goodstein Law Group in Tacoma, Washington. Mr. Sanders was a justice on the Washington Supreme Court from 1995 to 2010.
BirtherReport.com contacted Mr. Sanders for a public statement on why he decided to take on Linda Jordan's plight. Mr. Sanders provided the following statement on February 3rd, 2013. And, he didn't hold back!
Statement from the Honorable Richard B. Sanders:
"For the first time in 17 years, 15 of those sitting on the Washington Supreme Court, I have agreed to represent a private citizen. And I am pleased to lend Linda Jordan a helping hand.In good faith Ms. Jordan commenced an action to question President Obama's name on the ballot. She did the best she could with limited resources and no legal training. The government's response was immediate and in some respects heavy handed. Having obtained a summary dismissal of her case, and then her appeal, the attorney general went further to demand the Secretary of State be reimbursed, claiming attorney fees amounting to almost $13,000. However what the attorney general did not tell the court is that the Secretary never actually paid this amount, nor was he billed this amount, nor probably anything close to it. The number is made up, pure fiction. The AG did not disclose the actual amount to the court probably because the objective is to get a punitive judgment for as much as he can without regard to actual expenditures which were much less.
My motion to modify and reduce the court clerk's award of almost $13,000 will attempt to direct the court's attention to the truth of the matter: that once again the government is hiding the ball to oppress a patriotic private citizen of modest means because she exercised her right to access the courts. This is not compensatory but punitive. It is not justice but oppression. Moreover $13,000 is truly an outlandish sum to obtain dismissal of an appeal the AG claimed was entirely lacking in merit. No wonder people mistrust the government, lawyers and the court system. It's time to fight.
Richard B. Sanders
Lawyer - end - "
Linda Jordan provided the following statement on February 3rd, 2013:
"I am humbled, grateful and hopeful to have Richard Sanders representing me. The Courts do, after all, play a role in the effort to reveal the truth and serve justice." - Linda Jordan -"
You should be truly ashamed of yourself. You shill for the most evil tyranical impostor. When you have made them safe, they will come for you. And you will deserve it.
For the latter the WH would have had to edit them out of the paper copy they received and scanned in. That is possible. But there would have to be many more people in on the conspiracy. The document on file in Hawaii would have been seen by a dozen or dozens of people.
The biggest problem with my explanation is that the WH purposely altered the document they received after scanning it in. They separated it into some layers and did enhancement of some layers. A triviality using trivial software, but an intentional act of deception to further an intentional murkiness for purposes of depicting the opposition as irrational. My problem is that I promote that meme by pointing it out. But I have no choice. It is either that or irrational acceptance of an improbably large conspiracy.
Ping. TM,too.
Update at # 330.
Check out # 331 while you're in the neighborhood, but don't step in the smelly stuff.
Good for you, ABrit. It's about time someone told off that ugly, underhanded, backstabbing 0hbummer loving ___ who lies, and betrays freepers any time she can.
Do you kiss your children with that mouth?
You asked whose job it is to enforce the provisions of the 20th Amendment regarding whether the President-elect has qualified. I answered that question. There was nothing more intended.
Barnett, et. al. v Obama, US District Court Judge David O. Carter: “There may very well be a legitimate role for the judiciary to interpret whether the natural born citizen requirement has been satisfied in the case of a presidential candidate who has not already won the election and taken office. However, on the day that President Obama took the presidential oath and was sworn in, he became President of the United States. Any removal of him from the presidency must be accomplished through the Constitution’s mechanisms for the removal of a President, either through impeachment or the succession process set forth in the Twenty-Fifth Amendment. Plaintiffs attempt to subvert this grant of power to Congress by convincing the Court that it should disregard the constitutional procedures in place for the removal of a sitting president. The process for removal of a sitting president—REMOVAL FOR ANY REASON—is within the province of Congress, not the courts.”—U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, October 29, 2009
“It is not justice but oppression.”
That is awesome. Finally, an honorable lawyer/judge.
And if that person is acting President without legal auhority? Who removes a usurper?
Judge Carter made the assumption that there is someone in the oval office that meets the Constitutional requirements.
Who's job is it to determine Barry is a "natural born Citizen?" Is that Congress's job?
Back off on dissing LucyT!
She is a friend and loyal FReeper of many years.
She does some really great investigating work here. I’ve never found her to be wrong.
She is a solid conservative without an agenda, other than the truth and exposing the liberal lies.
KMA, bubba! Despising Orly Taitz equals shilling for Obamao only in the minds of seriously deranged individuals. If you actually support that incompetent, lunatic, attention whore, then you’re the one who should be ashamed. She’s no model for conservatives to admire.
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