Posted on 01/17/2013 7:38:05 AM PST by KeyLargo
Lawmaker: Doctors shouldn't be asking patients about guns By Pete Kasperowicz - 01/16/13 03:33 PM ET
Rep. John Fleming (R-La.), who was a family physician before coming to Congress in 2009, argued on Wednesday that doctors have no right to ask patients about their status as gun owners, as an executive order from President Obama would encourage them to do.
"I came to Congress as a family physician with great concerns about the federal government intruding on the doctor-patient relationship," Fleming said. "By his executive actions today, President Obama is pushing the government further into the exam room.
"He's trying to press doctors into government service by pushing them to ask patients, even child patients, if there are guns in their home. After more than thirty years of operating a family practice, I can tell you it should not be the business of a family physician to take inventory of the guns in a patient's home."
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Patient: "Does your mama still swim out to troop ships?"
People lie to their doctors all the time...
If I could set off a bell that chimed every time a patient lied in the exam room it would sound like a friggin alarm clock.
And that is only when I am sure they lied to me.
I work in pediatrics and Drs have been asking the parents for a number of years,”Do you feel safe in the house,do you have any guns in the house?”
How many years have they been asking this?
More than 5 years.
Wednesday, 08 June 2011 19:19 Written by John Velleco
Florida Law Prohibiting Doctors From Asking Gun Questions Brings Lawsuit
A bill banning Florida physicians from asking patients about gun ownership, signed into law last week by Governor Rick Scott (R), has brought out more than the typical hue and cry from the anti-self defense crowd.
On Monday, the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, along with the Florida chapters of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), the American Academy of Family Physicians, and the American College of Physicians, filed a lawsuit seeking to throw out the new law.
While claiming the new law violates doctors’ First Amendment rights, the lawsuit hardly conceals its bias against gun rights.
“By severely restricting such speech and the ability of physicians to practice such preventative medicine, the Florida statute could result in grievous harm to children, adolescents, adults, and the elderly,” according to the motion filed Monday in federal court in Miami.
No mention is ever made, of course, of the “grievous harm” that is prevented because of lawful gun ownership. In fact, a wide range of studies show that self-defense uses of firearms dramatically outweigh accidents and the criminal misuse of guns. Doctors who discourage gun ownership actually make people less safe and more vulnerable to criminal attack.
http://gunowners.org/docs-and-glocks-in-the-sunshine-state.htm
I would ask the good Doctor if he has applied to the government for approval of his question to me.
If he can’t show me proof, then he’s an unregistered user of the First Amendment, and I’ll refuse to answer.
No - but my mama has lots of them.
JULY 30, 2012
Gov. Scott fires back with appeal of ‘Docs-vs-Glocks’ ruling
Gov. Rick Scott is appealing yet another court ruling, and appears convinced that his interpretation of the Constitution is more valid than that of the federal judge who struck down the so-called “Docs-vs.-Glocks” law, which banned doctors from asking patients about gun ownership in most cases.
The 2011 law, sponsored by Rep. Jason Brodeur, R-Sanford, was pushed by the National Rifle Association and opposed by Florida doctors. The doctors challenged the law in court, and a federal judge in Miami ruled that barring doctors from asking patients about gun ownership violates their First Amendment freedom of speech rights.
Scott is now appealing that ruling, which pits the First Amendment against the Second Amendment.
Here’s the release from Scott’s office.
Tallahassee, Fla. – “The Department of Health today filed an appeal to the federal court decision blocking enforcement of the Firearm Owner’s Privacy Act. This law was carefully crafted to respect the First Amendment while ensuring a patient’s constitutional right to own or possess a firearm without discrimination. I signed this legislation into law because I believe it is constitutional and I will continue to defend it.”
Doctor: “Any guns in the house?”
Me: “Are you MY doctor or Obama’s snoop? Say, doctors kill more people than guns every year, so how many people have you killed lately? You’re fired.”
First off, my doctor hates 0 bummercare and I doubt she will ask. If I ever have a doctor ask, I’ll say “Yes”.
A paint gun, two staple guns, two caulking guns, a nail gun, several air guns, and two antique, single shot 12 gage shotguns.
I’ll also tell him / her that I need a volunteer to pull the trigger on the two shotguns since they are both over 75 years old.
Poll to freep
Based on recommendations from a task force led by Vice President Joe Biden, President Barack Obama Wednesday announced a program to cub gun violence through universal background checks and bans on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines. The president also issued 23 executive orders on the subject. Do you agree with the steps the president has taken?
Thank you for your vote.
Yes 43%
No 56%
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“Doctors and other health care providers also need to be able to ask about firearms in their patients’ homes and safe storage of those firearms, especially if their patients show signs of certain mental illnesses or if they have a young child or mentally ill family member at home. Some have incorrectly claimed that language in the Affordable Care Act prohibits doctors from asking their patients about guns and gun safety. Medical groups also continue to fight against state laws attempting to ban doctors from asking these questions.
“The Administration will issue guidance clarifying that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit or otherwise regulate communication between doctors and patients, including about firearms.”
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I have been told by a neighbor that a patient who lies to his doctor, under obumbler care regulations, will commit a federal crime and lose his CCW....because they plan to cross check names with CCW lists.
Does anyone know whether this is factual?
Does anyone have a link?
Well, the ones I have are locked up and neither of us has a mental condition.
Here in California they already ask us about it.
I’ll say just one thing on this: Competent lying is a survival skill.
I’d ask the doc....Do you want to know about the hammers, knives and buckets I own also? They kill more people than guns, ya know....
“Declined to answer” isn’t a lie.
I think Doctors starting today should bombard their liberal patients only with personal questions on and on saying all along that this is part of the New Obama care that they voted for. If the people who voted for Obama/ liberals feel that the personal questions the doctor is asking as in reference to owing a gun, their sanity/ mental health, their family memberss mental health, what he financial situation, stress level etc. is like in their home, whether they are recieving gov. assistance, etc. causing mental stress and financial problems, etc. in the home, you see where I’m coming from and going with these questions, all directed to liberal patients. If the doctor suspects the patient is conservative Hi-Five him and ask no further questions. Treat the conservative patient differently from the liberal. Turn the laws against these bastards!
I work in Oakland,Ca, one of the most crime ridden,gun toting,gang banging cities around.
I just happened to notice the question when reading some of the intakes.Not all Drs ask, or if they do, it is not transcribed in the chart.
Let me tell y.ou what your smart mouth and empty threats toward a medical personnel is going to get you--a call to the hospital security.
Then you'll have a very big problem on your medical record.
Doctors were at the forefront of the tea party.
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