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Now that the Bread and Circuses are over...
Vanity | butterdezillion

Posted on 01/02/2013 2:23:57 PM PST by butterdezillion

Now that the R's have caved and Obama is in full-gloat mode, let's move on to the Achilles' heel scary enough to Obama that his people have made threats to keep it quiet: football. Or, a football analogy, I should say. Currently there’s a call on the field more important than any call in any BCS game, and the stakes could not be higher:

Hawaii has confirmed that Obama's long-form image is a forgery and the record they have is not legally valid; the registrar cannot verify Obama's date of birth, city and island of birth, or parents' names - all of which were submitted for verification and by law must be verified if they can be. (You can look up the explanation of how we know this, at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/complete-klayman-letter-to-bauer.pdf . )And all of which must be known before a person can qualify to be President.

We've all been wanting the question answered and now it's been answered in a certified legal document from the proper HI authority.

That call matches the forensic evidence that Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his lead investigator, Mike Zullo, have sworn to in affidavits. It matches the evidence I've submitted in a fraud and subornation of perjury criminal case against DNC Attorney Bob Bauer. It matches the HDOH's alteration of the 1960-64 birth index to include non-valid records. It matches the minimum of 3 birth certificate numbers from 1961 that the HDOH has switched around recently, and the forged death certificate for Virginia Sunahara.

So that's the call on the field. Obama has no birth facts that are to be presumed accurate "on their face" (prima facia). The claims on his non-valid record are legally presumed to NOT be true, and all the instant replays (evidence) seen so far confirm the ruling on the field.

If Obama wants to overturn the call on the field he has to call for a review and show the refs something big enough to overturn the call. HI statute says the record has to be presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body if Obama wants to make a case for overturning his record's current legal status of non-validity. That's not Congress; Congress is legislative. Congress can't decide this, according to Hawaii law. But if Obama doesn't call for a review (and he's fought it for over 4 years now), Congress (or any Congress member, presumably) can file a lawsuit to force a review. Or they can just tell him the call on the field stands and every electoral vote for Obama is disqualified for being fraudulently-obtained. Hit him with an unsportmanlike conduct penalty while they're at it.

Please call your Senators and Representatives and tell them that the official call on the field is that Obama has no legally-established birth facts and thus cannot qualify to be President. Tell them to either disqualify the electoral votes that are known to have been acquired through fraudulent nomination papers, or call for a review of the play by filing a lawsuit to compel a legal determination of Obama's birth facts.

The electoral vote certification is on Friday. Not much time. Please help.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Sports
KEYWORDS: afterbirfturds; birftards; congress; electionfraud; eligibility; naturalborncitizen
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Notice that she never used the word “legally valid”. And she never says that SHE verifies anything - only that the record “verifies”, which means swears. Even a non-valid record swears that what’s on it is true. What she is telling us is that the record claims a Hawaii birth. Just like Onaka verified the existence of a record which “indicates” (claims) a Honolulu birth. That statement is just as true for a non-valid record as for a valid one.

So Fukino isn’t verifying anything there.

But even if she WAS, I’ll ask you the same question as I asked Lurker: Which are you going to believe, the unsworn comment of the same liar who had the birth index altered to include non-valid records, or the sworn certification of the official legally responsible to tell the truth? Which kind of statement generally has more weight in legal matters?

And why DO you suppose the HDOH altered their 1960-64 birth index to include non-valid records, AND switched at least 3 1961 BC#’s around?

For that matter, why do you suppose that Fukino had the HDOH Administrative Rules illegally hidden from the public until a new “unofficial copy” of them was *created* THE DAY THAT A RESPONSE TO MY UIPA REQUEST WAS DUE, a year after the 2008 election was over - even though OIP Director Cathy Takase claimed the HDOH had a version of those rules posted online for her access all along? Why did a new “copy” have to be created and posted the day my UIPA Request was due after I had contacted the lieutenant governor’s office about the illegality of the rules not being posted?

By the time this is done, there will be nobody at that HDOH office who has a shred of credibility, except perhaps Onaka, who I believe has put out the red flags to let the world know there’s a bunch of crap being done by the HDOH itself. The alteration of the birth index and at least 3 BC#’s is just one small part of the crookedness in that office.


21 posted on 01/02/2013 4:51:40 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Red Steel

Thanks for the heads up. Unbelievable how all the cases couldn’t be heard because there was supposedly no “standing”, and then when standing was guaranteed the judges just waved their hand and said the issue had to go away.

Banana republic type stuff.


22 posted on 01/02/2013 4:53:59 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Also notice that the unsworn Fuddy speaking to the press attests to the authenticity of the copies the HDOH gave Obama - not to the authenticity of the PDF that Obama’s people posted, which Onaka confirmed as a forgery and indicated as having information that was NOT “identical to” the information in the original record.


23 posted on 01/02/2013 5:14:58 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I think you mean dog and pony show. Bread and circuses is what Obama just got the kulaks to keep paying for.


24 posted on 01/02/2013 5:20:01 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Good point. I sit corrected.


25 posted on 01/02/2013 5:30:49 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: longfellow

The general and field officer corps have already been pretty much replaced with “reliable” people. Some of those “suicides” the military is so concerned about have been officers.


26 posted on 01/02/2013 6:07:28 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: butterdezillion; Absolutely Nobama; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Aurorales; autumnraine; azishot; ...
Constitutional Eligibility

27 posted on 01/02/2013 7:13:37 PM PST by null and void (The world is full of Maple Streets.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
conman, you're not helping yourself. The news release you quoted helps prove the point that you think you're disproving. In what you cited, former director Chiyome Fukino says she saw PLURAL "original vital records." Her October 2008 statement used the singular term "original birth certificate." She shouldn't need to change the terminology unless there's a difference in meanings. If the original birth certificate was valid (being the source of the information for the allged COLB and LFBC PDF), there should be no other records involved. By itself, it should be self-authenticating. She specifically changed her terminology in a way that means the COLB and the LFBC can't be legit because other documentation had to be filed before they could be accepted.

Second, Fukino has no statutory to declare anyone to be a "natural-born American citizen." It's a meaningless term anyway, because in this country, we are U.S. citizens, not "American" citizens. Thanks for helping to prove the point.

28 posted on 01/02/2013 8:08:21 PM PST by edge919
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To: butterdezillion

Butter,

I believe the fix is in and has been from the get go (ummmhhh...duh).

But the only way I believe this issue would even remotely stand a chance of being heard (but still dismissed - since it’s rigged) is for a FEDERAL CRIMINAL DEFENDANT to bring the issue forward.

Now, they put Col. Lt. Lakin in prison for six months - they know what they did - but someone facing a long sentence or even the death penalty might finally just force their hand. They should be made to own it.

It’s amazing it hasn’t already been attempted but most lawyers for criminal defendants seem to be bleeding heart liberals who would rather their client ..XXX.. than disturb the rule of the usurping boy king of the bath-house.

So if this attempt to get congress and the electoral college fail, maybe someone should start contacting defense attorneys.


29 posted on 01/02/2013 8:36:01 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: butterdezillion

Placemark and hope to communicate with you tomorrow.


30 posted on 01/02/2013 9:29:09 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: notted; butterdezillion; tx_eggman
I doubt you actually believe that, or you would not be following these threads. I do not presume to know your heart and many of us are simply in shock that our country has fallen this fast.

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them...

Yes, indeed, FRiend. Some Laws are very important!
31 posted on 01/03/2013 7:41:59 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: SpinnerWebb

Thank you for clarifying your thoughts, you made a (Perfect Point of light). Natural Law is fundamental to our survival, IMHO. I just hope we can avoid the pain of separation.


32 posted on 01/03/2013 8:19:31 AM PST by notted
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To: butterdezillion

This is C&P’ed from http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html and shows the procedures for requesting a letter of verification. Note that it says they will verify the existence of the record AND ANY OTHER INFORMATION THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDES TO BE VERIFIED RELATING TO THE VITAL EVENT. Ken Bennett’s letter of request says, “In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify....” Bennett did not exclude any items from the attached form (the application form) so he is clearly submitting it ALL, and according to the HDOH’s own statement, they will verify ANY information submitted for verification.

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How to Apply for Certified Copies of Vital Records

All applications requesting certified copies of birth, death, civil union, marriage, and divorce certificates must generally be made in writing (application forms may be downloaded from this site - see below). Requests may also be placed for birth and marriage certificates on a limited basis through the Internet (www.ehawaii.gov/ohsm). Telephone, FAX, or e-mail requests are not accepted.

The Office of Health Status Monitoring only has divorce records from July 1951 to December 2002. All other divorce records are kept in the court where the divorce took place.

Fees for certified copies of birth, death, civil union, marriage, and divorce certificates are identical:
$10.00 for the first copy of each certificate, and
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There is an additional fee for requests made through the Internet as follows:
$1.50 for a request of one (the first) copy of each certificate, if the requested certificate is found, or for the cost of conducting the search, if the requested certificate is not found, and
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Fees may be paid by cash (except for applications made by postal mail), money order, certified check, or cashier’s check - make money order and checks payable to the State Department of Health.

PERSONAL CHECKS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED.

Fees must be paid by a charge to a credit card for requests made through the Internet.

All fees for certified copies are payable in advance and nonrefundable. If no record is found after a search is conducted, the fees are retained to cover the cost of the search.

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Certified copies are usually not issued on the day the application is made. Same-Day service may be provided upon presentation of written documentation establishing the need for urgency. Certified copies will normally be available for pick-up about 10 working days after the request is approved. The pick-up time may be extended for records that are very old, because the search to locate the record may take longer, or in the process of being filed, because the official record is still being created.

Application forms are available in the building’s lobby area and should be filled in prior to coming to the counter in Room 103.

Apply by Mail

Send mail-in applications to the following address:

State Department of Health
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When applying by mail, the applicant must include a photocopy of his/her government-issued photo ID, such as a State ID, driver’s license, etc.

PERSONAL CHECKS WILL BE REJECTED AND RETURNED WITH THE APPLICATION TO THE APPLICANT.

Certified copies will normally be sent out within 6-8 weeks after receipt and approval of the application. The return time may be extended for records that are very old, because the search to locate the record may take longer, or in the process of being filed, because the official record is still being created.

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An applicant/requestor must provide the information needed to 1) establish his/her direct and tangible interest in the record and 2) locate the desired record. This will normally include:

Applicant’s name, address, and telephone number(s);
Applicant’s relationship to the person named on the certificate;
Reason why you are requesting the certificate;
Full name(s) as listed on the certificate;
The certificate’s file number (if known);
Month, day, and year of the event; and
City or town and the island where the event occurred.
For birth certificates, also provide the full name of the father and the full maiden name of the mother.
If you are applying for a certificate on behalf of someone else, you must provide an original letter signed by that person authorizing the release of their certificate to you and a photocopy of that person’s valid government-issued photo ID.
Valid government-issued photo ID.
Letters of Verification

Letters of verification may be issued in lieu of certified copies (HRS §338-14.3). This document verifies the existence of a birth/death/civil union/marriage/divorce certificate on file with the Department of Health and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event. (For example, that a certain named individual was born on a certain date at a certain place.) The verification process will not, however, disclose information about the vital event contained within the certificate that is unknown to and not provided by the applicant in the request.

Letters of verification are requested in similar fashion and using the same request forms as for certified copies.

The fee for a letter of verification is $5 per letter.

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33 posted on 01/03/2013 8:32:39 AM PST by butterdezillion
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